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I've listed this article for peer review because… I want to get it to FA status! The article is currently a Good Article, and has been developed a little since achieving GA status. There is little that is not covered now, so time to reach for the top.
Shouldn't the town be
Royal Tunbridge Wells and only Tunbridge Wells pre-1909 or referring to the station?
per
WP:COMMONNAME, it's "Tunbridge Wells". The Royal bit is hardly ever used, certainly not on bus destination blinds, or the nameboards at the railway station. You might see it on a map, but that is about all.
Mjroots (
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18:34, 26 April 2015 (UTC)reply
In "Planned electrification" it states that
British Rail Class 70 (electric) locos were built in 1937, though that article states they were built from 1941 onwards.
Some of the text (e.g. The first passenger carrying train comprising C1 stock to use the line was a railtour on 15 March. It was organised by the Southern Electric Group and ran from Paddington to Folkestone Harbour. The train was hauled by 50 025 Invincible.) is rather bitty, and doesn't flow very well. Combining some of the sentences would make this more readable.
In 1963, Frant, Stonegate, Wadhurst and Mountfield Halt were proposed to be closed under the Beeching Axe. These are open now, I believe. Were they closed and reopened, or reprieved? When and why in each case.
As noted in the stations section, only Mountfield Halt closed. Not sure we really need to state the obvious, which would take many hours trawling through local newspaper archives.
Mjroots (
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12:30, 29 April 2015 (UTC)reply
The tunnels that are still double track: were they already wide enough for normal width stock, or were they widened?
As stated in the Construction section, Bo-Peep tunnel was widened. AFAIK, both tunnels at Tunbridge Wells were just wide enough, although some measures had to be taken to ensure that the track did not move within the tunnels. Will re-read Beecroft and see if I can expand this a bit.
Mjroots (
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12:34, 29 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Would it be clearer to add dates to the respective era section headers? I think this would be Steam era: 1845–1957, Diesel-electric era: 1957–1986 and Electric era: 1986-present. See
Talyllyn Railway for an example of this format.
When it comes to the stations on the line, there should really be more to add about most of them beyond a number of one line sentences. For comprehensiveness, there should be more historical content about those ones with a couple of sentences (Frant, Etchingham, Battle).
You mention right at the end that Southeastern currently run the line. I'd have thought something like that should be in the lead which currently isn't.
There appears to be little mention of the historical operators of the line, you have the early ones when it was being built and Southeastern, but what about
Connex South Eastern and
South Eastern Trains for example.
Having mulled this over, we really need an "operators" section. Line was operated by SER --> SECR --> SR --> BR(S) --> NSE --> CSE --> SET and now Southeastern.
Mjroots (
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09:35, 30 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Diesel-electric era: The sentences reagrding the Cannon Street SB fire need references.
@
Optimist on the run: It is referenced - Beecroft pp38-40 (currently ref #97).
I don't have a copy of the source so can't verify, but I took that ref to refer to the sentence Hastings Diesels had almost completely replaced steam by June 1958, which seems unrelated to the fire.
Optimist on the run (
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17:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I do have Beecroft; the fire and initial introduction of the 6-S units is on p. 38, para 3; the June 1958 stuff is p. 40. --
Redrose64 (
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18:35, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Accidents and incidents: This looks a little skewed to
WP:RECENT. I'd suggest shortening the 2013 landslip incident (is there scope for a separate article for that?)
No mileage whatsoever in a separate article. Although there was disruption for a number of weeks, there were no injuries or deaths. Would not be able to fight an AfD if an article were created IMHO.
Mjroots (
talk)
16:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply
This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because… I want to get it to FA status! The article is currently a Good Article, and has been developed a little since achieving GA status. There is little that is not covered now, so time to reach for the top.
Shouldn't the town be
Royal Tunbridge Wells and only Tunbridge Wells pre-1909 or referring to the station?
per
WP:COMMONNAME, it's "Tunbridge Wells". The Royal bit is hardly ever used, certainly not on bus destination blinds, or the nameboards at the railway station. You might see it on a map, but that is about all.
Mjroots (
talk)
18:34, 26 April 2015 (UTC)reply
In "Planned electrification" it states that
British Rail Class 70 (electric) locos were built in 1937, though that article states they were built from 1941 onwards.
Some of the text (e.g. The first passenger carrying train comprising C1 stock to use the line was a railtour on 15 March. It was organised by the Southern Electric Group and ran from Paddington to Folkestone Harbour. The train was hauled by 50 025 Invincible.) is rather bitty, and doesn't flow very well. Combining some of the sentences would make this more readable.
In 1963, Frant, Stonegate, Wadhurst and Mountfield Halt were proposed to be closed under the Beeching Axe. These are open now, I believe. Were they closed and reopened, or reprieved? When and why in each case.
As noted in the stations section, only Mountfield Halt closed. Not sure we really need to state the obvious, which would take many hours trawling through local newspaper archives.
Mjroots (
talk)
12:30, 29 April 2015 (UTC)reply
The tunnels that are still double track: were they already wide enough for normal width stock, or were they widened?
As stated in the Construction section, Bo-Peep tunnel was widened. AFAIK, both tunnels at Tunbridge Wells were just wide enough, although some measures had to be taken to ensure that the track did not move within the tunnels. Will re-read Beecroft and see if I can expand this a bit.
Mjroots (
talk)
12:34, 29 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Would it be clearer to add dates to the respective era section headers? I think this would be Steam era: 1845–1957, Diesel-electric era: 1957–1986 and Electric era: 1986-present. See
Talyllyn Railway for an example of this format.
When it comes to the stations on the line, there should really be more to add about most of them beyond a number of one line sentences. For comprehensiveness, there should be more historical content about those ones with a couple of sentences (Frant, Etchingham, Battle).
You mention right at the end that Southeastern currently run the line. I'd have thought something like that should be in the lead which currently isn't.
There appears to be little mention of the historical operators of the line, you have the early ones when it was being built and Southeastern, but what about
Connex South Eastern and
South Eastern Trains for example.
Having mulled this over, we really need an "operators" section. Line was operated by SER --> SECR --> SR --> BR(S) --> NSE --> CSE --> SET and now Southeastern.
Mjroots (
talk)
09:35, 30 April 2015 (UTC)reply
Diesel-electric era: The sentences reagrding the Cannon Street SB fire need references.
@
Optimist on the run: It is referenced - Beecroft pp38-40 (currently ref #97).
I don't have a copy of the source so can't verify, but I took that ref to refer to the sentence Hastings Diesels had almost completely replaced steam by June 1958, which seems unrelated to the fire.
Optimist on the run (
talk)
17:27, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply
I do have Beecroft; the fire and initial introduction of the 6-S units is on p. 38, para 3; the June 1958 stuff is p. 40. --
Redrose64 (
talk)
18:35, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Accidents and incidents: This looks a little skewed to
WP:RECENT. I'd suggest shortening the 2013 landslip incident (is there scope for a separate article for that?)
No mileage whatsoever in a separate article. Although there was disruption for a number of weeks, there were no injuries or deaths. Would not be able to fight an AfD if an article were created IMHO.
Mjroots (
talk)
16:36, 1 May 2015 (UTC)reply