Gregory of Nyssa

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Hi. I'm a relatively new editor, and I wondering how I would need to improve the article in order for it to be featured. I feel it's comprehensive (only slightly shorter than Gregory of Nazianzus, which is a FA), but I'm sure there are some matters I've overlooked so far. Thanks, He to Hecuba ( talk) 20:53, 6 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Redtigerxyz's Comments

• Gregory of Nazianzus is not the best example to follow. It is a 2007 FA, which has many problems like uncited facts, missing page numbers, usage of primary sources etc. It should go for a FAR. Wilfrid is a better model
• "was named after Gregory Thaumaturgus": Who is Gregory Thaumaturgus? Adding a short summary "the 3rd century saint Gregory Thaumaturgus" adds some context. " Valens split Cappadocia" who is Valens? Amphilochius of Iconium, Desmothenes of Pontus ...
  •  Done. I've clarified all of these apart from Demosthenes of Pontus. Nothing is known of Demosthenes apart from his name and the fact that he convened the synod of Ancyra. I presume it doesn't need to be as long as the article on Wilfrid, simply because there's so little extent biographical information about Gregory.
• Missing parent's names in the start of "Early life and education". Their names appear in St. Basil's article
  • Will work on this. This isn't a simple issue, as his parents names vary in primary sources, and it's difficult to decide which secondary readings are correct.
    • Add all/major names, if no consensus between scholars. -- Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply
• Which grandmother is Macrina the Elder? paternal/maternal?
  •  Done.
• " his brother: for instance, while Basil", exchange brother and Basil. When you read "his brother", it is unclear who are talking about? Naucratius, Peter, Basil??
  •  Done
• Who is synod? link jargon. Explain by short summary. Who are Cappadocian Fathers???
  • I don't think the word synod needs to be explained in this context, but I've linked to it. It is explained who the Cappadocian Fathers are in the lede.
    • I meant what are the Cappadocian Fathers?? Importance??? -- Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply
      • "Gregory, his brother Basil of Caesarea and Gregory of Nazianzus are collectively known as the Cappadocian Fathers". They're just three saints who are venerated together in Eastern Christianity - major theological similarities and historical connexions.
• What are the primary sources of his biography? Add a section
  • Will do, good suggestion.
• Primary sources of his theology? Writings? Add section
  • Will do.
    • Catholic Encyclopedia might help. -- Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply
• Add reference for "Died c. 395"
  • His date of death is unknown. I can cite it to no. 15, but I see no real need - it's presumed by virtually every source that he died around then.
    • Catholic Encyclopedia says after 395/6. -- Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply
      • See page 114 of the Brilll Dictionary. The latest mention of an event in connexion with him is 394, so 395/6 seems to be pure conjecture.
• What are his relics??
  • Bones. There's very little information concerning them as his veneration is pretty limited.
    • Say that. There are variety of relics like clothes, bones, personal objects etc. Right? -- Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply
      • In Christianity, only the bones are generally considered a "relic" of the saint.
• " he was a homoousian, and Against Eunomius affirms the truth" something is wrong in this sentence
  • What in particular is wrong ? -- He to Hecuba ( talk) 18:33, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply
    • Shouldn't it be something like " and was against Eunomius, which affirms ... " -- Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:45, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply
      • "Against Eunomius" is a book by Gregory. The sentence will be less ambiguous when I've written about his theological works in detail. -- He to Hecuba ( talk) 18:56, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply

-- Redtigerxyz ^Talk 18:10, 7 February 2012 (UTC) reply

Comment: I think that the lead should probably be expanded to mention (for example) specific contributions / theological positions. - Jarry1250  ^{Deliberation needed} 15:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC) reply