El Hatillo is a municipality in
Caracas,
Venezuela. I started this article around a month and half ago and I have been hardly working on it. I think all section are at least covered, I just need some feedback on the content. Is there anything missing? How long is it from being a
Good article (and a
Featured article for that matter)? Any suggestions are very welcomed. --
Enano27521:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)reply
through out the article it mentions El Hatillo as "relatively close to Caracas,". Is it outside Caracas boundary?.... If so how can it be called a municipality of Caracas then? confusing... All the confusing statements have been cleared now, the municipality is a part of Caracas.--
Enano27519:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Too much bulleted lists/information. Rewrite some into paragraph form.All but the neighborhoods and mayors have been re-written into paragraphs.--
Enano27519:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)reply
needs a copy-edit. The prose might not be "compelling, even brilliant", but I consider it has improved significantly since the PR was made.--
Enano27503:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Consider inserting main ethnic group and population into the lead. Ethnic groups are missing from the article also. Information on ethnics is too vague, but I inserted what I could under history and demographics. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
State and make it more obvious this is a tourist destination and maybe name the most famous attraction. Tried to do so in the 3rd paragraph. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Second paragraph is a mess (no offense intended).
Revise first sentence so it does not start with "Since". Incorporate more historical information.
"El Hatillo is a place of interest for visitors." Why? because of its "Venezuela's best preserved typical colonial towns"?... if so collaborate. Why is it so well preserved, whats there?
If the municipality is a tourist attraction, incorporate some figures/information of how tourist effects the area. Also incorporate this into article. For the last three, it's been re-written and all your concerns have been cleared. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
History:
"El Hatillo was inhabited by native Venezuelan tribes Mariches and Caribs." When? At least all it's talked about happened in the 16th century. I cleared that pre-Hispanic information about the tribes is not available. --
Enano27519:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)reply
"Cacique Tamanaco, the leader of these tribes, divided the area in two sections, north and south. Each one was ruled by Cacique Aricabacuto and Cacique Tapairacay respectively." Umm... I dont get it. Three tribe leaders ruled this land for thousands of years? If not when did this tribe leaders rule, and why are they notable to mention? Same as before, 16th century, when the colonization began. I removed the north and south division sentence because it's really unneeded. --
Enano27519:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Talk more about what the town was used for. Also there are a bunch of historical events with no explanation for why they happened. Example: "Miranda's Legislative Assembly separated El Hatillo from Sucre, declaring it an independent municipality."
Insert climate and weather. The best I could find was a min and max temperature. --
Enano275 20:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC). I found more information. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
A map showing neighborhood borders would be great.
I honestly don't think that I will ever find something similar, I have never seen a municipality map of Venezuela with the neighborhoods, and El Hatillo only has one parish, so that's not an option either. --
Enano275 20:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC). I placed a satellite image under geography so at least the readers have a general overview of where the municipality is located in Caracas. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Thank you! I will be working on all that. Do you suggest any way to reduce confusion between the town and the municipality? The thing is that if I make a new article, they would share many facts, for example the history. --
Enano27515:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Splitting is the obvious choice personally. I dont see how they can share too many things. History in a way can be similar, but not so much since you shouldn't talk too specifically about the town, but the area as a whole. Thanks, I hope you find my suggestions helpful.
- Tutmosis22:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC)reply
OK, I will split it as you're recommending. And yes, your suggestions have been very helpful :-). I will start adding individual replies to each of you comments as I work on them. Thank you very much. --
Enano27522:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)reply
El Hatillo is a municipality in
Caracas,
Venezuela. I started this article around a month and half ago and I have been hardly working on it. I think all section are at least covered, I just need some feedback on the content. Is there anything missing? How long is it from being a
Good article (and a
Featured article for that matter)? Any suggestions are very welcomed. --
Enano27521:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)reply
through out the article it mentions El Hatillo as "relatively close to Caracas,". Is it outside Caracas boundary?.... If so how can it be called a municipality of Caracas then? confusing... All the confusing statements have been cleared now, the municipality is a part of Caracas.--
Enano27519:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Too much bulleted lists/information. Rewrite some into paragraph form.All but the neighborhoods and mayors have been re-written into paragraphs.--
Enano27519:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)reply
needs a copy-edit. The prose might not be "compelling, even brilliant", but I consider it has improved significantly since the PR was made.--
Enano27503:03, 22 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Consider inserting main ethnic group and population into the lead. Ethnic groups are missing from the article also. Information on ethnics is too vague, but I inserted what I could under history and demographics. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
State and make it more obvious this is a tourist destination and maybe name the most famous attraction. Tried to do so in the 3rd paragraph. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Second paragraph is a mess (no offense intended).
Revise first sentence so it does not start with "Since". Incorporate more historical information.
"El Hatillo is a place of interest for visitors." Why? because of its "Venezuela's best preserved typical colonial towns"?... if so collaborate. Why is it so well preserved, whats there?
If the municipality is a tourist attraction, incorporate some figures/information of how tourist effects the area. Also incorporate this into article. For the last three, it's been re-written and all your concerns have been cleared. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
History:
"El Hatillo was inhabited by native Venezuelan tribes Mariches and Caribs." When? At least all it's talked about happened in the 16th century. I cleared that pre-Hispanic information about the tribes is not available. --
Enano27519:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)reply
"Cacique Tamanaco, the leader of these tribes, divided the area in two sections, north and south. Each one was ruled by Cacique Aricabacuto and Cacique Tapairacay respectively." Umm... I dont get it. Three tribe leaders ruled this land for thousands of years? If not when did this tribe leaders rule, and why are they notable to mention? Same as before, 16th century, when the colonization began. I removed the north and south division sentence because it's really unneeded. --
Enano27519:24, 12 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Talk more about what the town was used for. Also there are a bunch of historical events with no explanation for why they happened. Example: "Miranda's Legislative Assembly separated El Hatillo from Sucre, declaring it an independent municipality."
Insert climate and weather. The best I could find was a min and max temperature. --
Enano275 20:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC). I found more information. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
A map showing neighborhood borders would be great.
I honestly don't think that I will ever find something similar, I have never seen a municipality map of Venezuela with the neighborhoods, and El Hatillo only has one parish, so that's not an option either. --
Enano275 20:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC). I placed a satellite image under geography so at least the readers have a general overview of where the municipality is located in Caracas. --
Enano27506:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)reply
Thank you! I will be working on all that. Do you suggest any way to reduce confusion between the town and the municipality? The thing is that if I make a new article, they would share many facts, for example the history. --
Enano27515:28, 14 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Splitting is the obvious choice personally. I dont see how they can share too many things. History in a way can be similar, but not so much since you shouldn't talk too specifically about the town, but the area as a whole. Thanks, I hope you find my suggestions helpful.
- Tutmosis22:20, 14 May 2006 (UTC)reply
OK, I will split it as you're recommending. And yes, your suggestions have been very helpful :-). I will start adding individual replies to each of you comments as I work on them. Thank you very much. --
Enano27522:29, 18 May 2006 (UTC)reply