This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because it twice failed as a featured list candidate in July 2007; it has been substantially modified since then and I'm thinking of resubmitting it, and I'd like some feedback as to whether it now meets the
featured list criteria.
Thanks, Cuddlyopedia ( talk) 09:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Brianboulton comments:
This is a formidable piece of work which has clearly involved a great deal of effort in its compilation. Unfortunately I don't think that its presentation does justice to its content.
The reader is faced with an introductory block of print, no images or other enticements. The introduction is quite ponderously written, almost legalistic, and the reader soon comes across this disclaimer: "Nor is the fact that a story or episode has a date attributed to it in the list intended to imply that it is indeed set on that date". This rather undermines the value and purpose of the project, because you are effectively saying that the information can't be relied on.
Some of the phraseology used is convoluted, difficult to understand. Examples: "disparate attributable dates"; "delves into time travel"; appearing to predominately take place". I had particular difficulty unravelling this sentence: "Over the long period of production, different writers have suggested different dates on which the shows are set, resulting in some noted controversy over their placement in any timeline, testament to the significance of the series' continuity and chronology within its fandom." This sentence is then followed by another disclaimer: "Any date attributed...should be regarded as an indication of the boundaries of the controversy, not as a statement of its correct resolution."
As a general point, it might be that, within this project, you are simply trying to give too much information. Certainly my head was spinning as I tried to work through the tables and get a sense of their meaning. This may be because I am not a Dr. Who fan and have never seen the spin-offs you refer to. However, the aim must be to produce a list/article that is generally accessible, not one that only makes sense to the aficionados.
Here are some suggestions as to how the introductory text might be improved:
As to the tables, all 20 of them, I can't say I found these easy to work through. Information (for example in the second table, the entries for The Aztecs and The Girl in the Fireplace) were very difficult to interpret. If the colour coding was explained anywhere, I missed it.
May I say, finally, that I do admire the care and thoroughness with which these lists have been put together, and would very much like to see them presented in a way that does them justice. I hope that my suggestions, above, will enable you to do this and bring the project successfully to FL.
Brianboulton ( talk) 14:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because it twice failed as a featured list candidate in July 2007; it has been substantially modified since then and I'm thinking of resubmitting it, and I'd like some feedback as to whether it now meets the
featured list criteria.
Thanks, Cuddlyopedia ( talk) 09:40, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Brianboulton comments:
This is a formidable piece of work which has clearly involved a great deal of effort in its compilation. Unfortunately I don't think that its presentation does justice to its content.
The reader is faced with an introductory block of print, no images or other enticements. The introduction is quite ponderously written, almost legalistic, and the reader soon comes across this disclaimer: "Nor is the fact that a story or episode has a date attributed to it in the list intended to imply that it is indeed set on that date". This rather undermines the value and purpose of the project, because you are effectively saying that the information can't be relied on.
Some of the phraseology used is convoluted, difficult to understand. Examples: "disparate attributable dates"; "delves into time travel"; appearing to predominately take place". I had particular difficulty unravelling this sentence: "Over the long period of production, different writers have suggested different dates on which the shows are set, resulting in some noted controversy over their placement in any timeline, testament to the significance of the series' continuity and chronology within its fandom." This sentence is then followed by another disclaimer: "Any date attributed...should be regarded as an indication of the boundaries of the controversy, not as a statement of its correct resolution."
As a general point, it might be that, within this project, you are simply trying to give too much information. Certainly my head was spinning as I tried to work through the tables and get a sense of their meaning. This may be because I am not a Dr. Who fan and have never seen the spin-offs you refer to. However, the aim must be to produce a list/article that is generally accessible, not one that only makes sense to the aficionados.
Here are some suggestions as to how the introductory text might be improved:
As to the tables, all 20 of them, I can't say I found these easy to work through. Information (for example in the second table, the entries for The Aztecs and The Girl in the Fireplace) were very difficult to interpret. If the colour coding was explained anywhere, I missed it.
May I say, finally, that I do admire the care and thoroughness with which these lists have been put together, and would very much like to see them presented in a way that does them justice. I hope that my suggestions, above, will enable you to do this and bring the project successfully to FL.
Brianboulton ( talk) 14:13, 24 January 2009 (UTC)