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I've listed this article for peer review because I just recently did a revamp and I would like to know if what other things to do for it to reach GA, or possible go directly to FA.
Many of your references are missing date info (not access date, but the date the original page was put up). For example, ref 10 has a date on the page: 1998.
Maybe some of those you pointed out do not have publication date in its page. I'll take a look, though. But Im pretty sure they're all filled up properly. --
Efe (
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06:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Some might criticize this because you have used MTV News as a source a lot.
I mean, you want to make sure all the information is filled out (access dates, publisher info, and so on). Otherwise, someone is going to pick on the footnotes when it comes to the FA. Take a look at
WP:FAC, and you'll notice that footnotes are often highlighted. —
Wackymacs (
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07:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Yah. They're all filled up. Some do not have publication dates, but surely they all have accessdates, excluding offline sources. Some do not have publishers, as they appear to be the same with the work parameter. --
Efe (
talk)
07:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
The Personal Life section is short.
I will probably integrate this to the song-writing sub-section. There's a part there which is related to it. --
Efe (
talk)
06:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
There is a bit of over-linking - for example, in the "Dangerously in Love (2003) and stardom" section (last paragraph) - there is no need to link those years in brackets.
They're actually linked not linked to a date. Like 2008, its linked to the article about 2008 Grammy Awards. --
Efe (
talk)
06:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Probably after the PR. Im not an English-native so it would be helpful to put this PR a while to ensure that grammar/prose issues are resolved. Thanks for the suggestion. --
Efe (
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07:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Which of those? I suspect one of the images you are referring is that one on the Destiny's Child section. I will edit it. --
Efe (
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06:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
That info is too indepth, it should go in the content of the article. The caption should just read ....the original line up of destiny child.
Realist2 (
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02:09, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Ya know i dont even need to continue, this is easily GA, id stick it up for nomination if i were you. Just sort out those bloody captions, they hurt my eye's. ;-]
Realist2 (
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04:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Some featured article are using this. I will try to find alternative source and/or supporting claim that this one is reliable. --
Efe (
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03:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Not so sure if this is reliable. Been using this site many times. Could you please give me a subpage of this site that fails to meet
WP:RS? Thank you. --
Efe (
talk)
11:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
A couple of the refs are incosistent with other refs. RIAA or The Recording Academny?
Im having trouble. I used RIAA for the RIAA source and the latter to the GRAMMY source. Am I correct? I will spell out RIAA. --
Efe (
talk)
02:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Would be nice to spell out some of the acroynymns in the references: ASCAP
I believe you have a lot to do in FAC room so checking sources of this article is a great help. Anyway, if you're really interested with prose checking, it would be good. Hehe. Thanks. --
Efe (
talk)
02:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
I didn't read the article thoroughly, but I think it would be improved by the addition of a short section about her personal life.
Mangostar (
talk)
17:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)reply
I removed it because, as per above, its pointless. Nothing could be explained more but just rumors, here and there. But the section appears on the page right now as my and another user is having a slight "edit war". --
Efe (
talk)
05:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Note: If the "marriage" issue is confirmed by Beyonce herself, I will outrightly add that section (or improve). --
Efe (
talk)
05:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Also I agree with Indopug that another image might be better for the infobox. The current one is clearly very high-res, but I think she looks dowdy and unlike her normal self.
Mangostar (
talk)
01:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)reply
It still doesn't significantly increase our understanding of the matter at hand...Actually keep it, we'll think of fair-use later (won't pass on FAC though)
Not sure why that non-free Destiny pic is there either, its more suited for the Destiny's Child article.
That Austin Powers screenshot needs to be commented upon, as in discuss her appearance in the pic or something. As of now it does not significantly increase our understanding of the prose to merit inclusion.
Move Philanthropy to Business ventures (renamed to something like Other ventures) and Influences to the Artistry section (renamed to Style and Influences or the like; I really dislike the current section name)
As requested, here are my comments on the article - hope they help to improve it:
A model article or two to follow is always useful - I note
Mariah Carey is FA. She is also a singer and has made films, although she was not in a group.
Agree that this could use a copyedit - FA asks for prose that is near brilliant. For example (random sentence) Although it was a commercial success, the short-time production of the album was the critics' subject of scrutiny. might be better as Although it was a commercial success, the realtively short time for production of the album was the subject of critical scrutiny. Or this Despite all her song-writer stints since the release of the group's debut album, her involvement was attached to media scrutiny. Have you asked
WP:LOCE?
I will not ask the project for now.
User:Esprit15d is conducting a copy edit and some users are ready to ce the article. Hopefully, "bad grammars" will be rectified. --
Efe (
talk)
02:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Per
WP:MOS#Images do not sandwich text between images (the pictures in Personal life and Style and image sections sandwich the text).
Thank you. I really suck at grammars (Im not English-native speaker) and I have to ask somebody else to correct them. --
Efe (
talk)
02:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Any reason why her Destiny's Child albums are not listed in the Discography?
This peer review discussion has been closed.
I've listed this article for peer review because I just recently did a revamp and I would like to know if what other things to do for it to reach GA, or possible go directly to FA.
Many of your references are missing date info (not access date, but the date the original page was put up). For example, ref 10 has a date on the page: 1998.
Maybe some of those you pointed out do not have publication date in its page. I'll take a look, though. But Im pretty sure they're all filled up properly. --
Efe (
talk)
06:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Some might criticize this because you have used MTV News as a source a lot.
I mean, you want to make sure all the information is filled out (access dates, publisher info, and so on). Otherwise, someone is going to pick on the footnotes when it comes to the FA. Take a look at
WP:FAC, and you'll notice that footnotes are often highlighted. —
Wackymacs (
talk)
07:18, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Yah. They're all filled up. Some do not have publication dates, but surely they all have accessdates, excluding offline sources. Some do not have publishers, as they appear to be the same with the work parameter. --
Efe (
talk)
07:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
The Personal Life section is short.
I will probably integrate this to the song-writing sub-section. There's a part there which is related to it. --
Efe (
talk)
06:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
There is a bit of over-linking - for example, in the "Dangerously in Love (2003) and stardom" section (last paragraph) - there is no need to link those years in brackets.
They're actually linked not linked to a date. Like 2008, its linked to the article about 2008 Grammy Awards. --
Efe (
talk)
06:15, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Probably after the PR. Im not an English-native so it would be helpful to put this PR a while to ensure that grammar/prose issues are resolved. Thanks for the suggestion. --
Efe (
talk)
07:42, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Which of those? I suspect one of the images you are referring is that one on the Destiny's Child section. I will edit it. --
Efe (
talk)
06:22, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
That info is too indepth, it should go in the content of the article. The caption should just read ....the original line up of destiny child.
Realist2 (
talk)
02:09, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Ya know i dont even need to continue, this is easily GA, id stick it up for nomination if i were you. Just sort out those bloody captions, they hurt my eye's. ;-]
Realist2 (
talk)
04:26, 15 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Some featured article are using this. I will try to find alternative source and/or supporting claim that this one is reliable. --
Efe (
talk)
03:01, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Not so sure if this is reliable. Been using this site many times. Could you please give me a subpage of this site that fails to meet
WP:RS? Thank you. --
Efe (
talk)
11:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
A couple of the refs are incosistent with other refs. RIAA or The Recording Academny?
Im having trouble. I used RIAA for the RIAA source and the latter to the GRAMMY source. Am I correct? I will spell out RIAA. --
Efe (
talk)
02:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Would be nice to spell out some of the acroynymns in the references: ASCAP
I believe you have a lot to do in FAC room so checking sources of this article is a great help. Anyway, if you're really interested with prose checking, it would be good. Hehe. Thanks. --
Efe (
talk)
02:55, 16 April 2008 (UTC)reply
I didn't read the article thoroughly, but I think it would be improved by the addition of a short section about her personal life.
Mangostar (
talk)
17:14, 18 April 2008 (UTC)reply
I removed it because, as per above, its pointless. Nothing could be explained more but just rumors, here and there. But the section appears on the page right now as my and another user is having a slight "edit war". --
Efe (
talk)
05:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Note: If the "marriage" issue is confirmed by Beyonce herself, I will outrightly add that section (or improve). --
Efe (
talk)
05:51, 19 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Also I agree with Indopug that another image might be better for the infobox. The current one is clearly very high-res, but I think she looks dowdy and unlike her normal self.
Mangostar (
talk)
01:00, 19 April 2008 (UTC)reply
It still doesn't significantly increase our understanding of the matter at hand...Actually keep it, we'll think of fair-use later (won't pass on FAC though)
Not sure why that non-free Destiny pic is there either, its more suited for the Destiny's Child article.
That Austin Powers screenshot needs to be commented upon, as in discuss her appearance in the pic or something. As of now it does not significantly increase our understanding of the prose to merit inclusion.
Move Philanthropy to Business ventures (renamed to something like Other ventures) and Influences to the Artistry section (renamed to Style and Influences or the like; I really dislike the current section name)
As requested, here are my comments on the article - hope they help to improve it:
A model article or two to follow is always useful - I note
Mariah Carey is FA. She is also a singer and has made films, although she was not in a group.
Agree that this could use a copyedit - FA asks for prose that is near brilliant. For example (random sentence) Although it was a commercial success, the short-time production of the album was the critics' subject of scrutiny. might be better as Although it was a commercial success, the realtively short time for production of the album was the subject of critical scrutiny. Or this Despite all her song-writer stints since the release of the group's debut album, her involvement was attached to media scrutiny. Have you asked
WP:LOCE?
I will not ask the project for now.
User:Esprit15d is conducting a copy edit and some users are ready to ce the article. Hopefully, "bad grammars" will be rectified. --
Efe (
talk)
02:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Per
WP:MOS#Images do not sandwich text between images (the pictures in Personal life and Style and image sections sandwich the text).
Thank you. I really suck at grammars (Im not English-native speaker) and I have to ask somebody else to correct them. --
Efe (
talk)
02:21, 22 April 2008 (UTC)reply
Any reason why her Destiny's Child albums are not listed in the Discography?