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Four reasons. As below, a pejorative should never be used in a close, a closing admin needs to be unbiased, and clearly JhunterJ is not - if someone feels they need to use a pejorative in a close, they should not be doing the close, Snow can not be used when the vote is 4:2, nor can it be used in an uphill battle which might not be won, and finally, even a speedy close should not be done in less than 19 hours over the weekend, when Wikipedia traditionally has less traffic. Comets, of the four ways that MOS advocates have been inappropriately applying endashes, is the most inappropriate, because there is actually a naming authority that names comets the same way they name planets - with only spaces and hyphens (after a name is given). In these move requests we always have a half a dozen or so MOS editors who want to enforce their view of how things should be spelled, regardless of common sense. While they made a perfectly logical decision, they came to a completely illogical conclusion. It happens. Someone simply needs to point that out. There is no reason for a few editors to think they have any right to tell all of the rest of us how to spell things. Apteva ( talk) 19:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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The following is an archived debate of the move review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Same as Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. 4:1 certainly can not be cited as Snow, nor does Snow apply to an uphill battle which might not succeed, not should a pejorative be used in reference to the close. The airport is clearly and obviously misspelled, and it is absurd for a few people at MOS who know nothing about airports to decide how airports should be spelled. The admin is not able to form an unbiased opinion and should have recused themself in favor of any one of the 800 other active admins. Apteva ( talk) 19:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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The following is an archived debate of the move review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
As with Aspen-Pitkin County Airport, 4:1 certainly can not be cited as Snow, nor does Snow apply to an uphill battle which might not succeed, not should a pejorative be used in reference to the close. The airport is clearly and obviously misspelled, and it is absurd for a few people at MOS who know nothing about airports to decide how airports should be spelled. The admin is not able to form an unbiased opinion and should have recused themself in favor of any one of the 800 other active admins. Apteva ( talk) 19:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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The following is an archived debate of the move review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Three reasons. First Snow does not apply when the vote is 2:1. Second Snow does not apply when fighting an uphill battle which might not succeed. Third, the use of the word disruptive in the close is a pejorative that is totally unwarranted as the airport clearly and obviously to anyone who knows anything about airports is misnamed and needs to be returned to its original name. Pejoratives have no place in Wikipedia. We always need to be fair and unbiased and always assume good faith. The closing admin, should this pattern persist, should be removed of their adminship. The closing admin was not capable of forming an unbiased opinion clearly having an ax to grind against the editor opening the RM, and should have had the wisdom to recuse themself from performing the close. There are about 800 active admins, so why would the one and only admin who has an ax to grind against this editor be the one who felt compelled to be the one and only admin to close this RM? Apteva ( talk) 18:36, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Before we get a bunch more repeated responses like PaleAqua's, can I propose that we treat these four as one, since they were are brought by the same guy, for essentially the same reason, and all closed by the same closer? Can we just discuss in this section instead of above? Dicklyon ( talk) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
That is he or she thank you. This section is meaningless. Each close is being discussed separately, and it is not meaningful to combine them. Apteva ( talk) 04:43, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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The following is an archived debate of the move review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Four reasons. As below, a pejorative should never be used in a close, a closing admin needs to be unbiased, and clearly JhunterJ is not - if someone feels they need to use a pejorative in a close, they should not be doing the close, Snow can not be used when the vote is 4:2, nor can it be used in an uphill battle which might not be won, and finally, even a speedy close should not be done in less than 19 hours over the weekend, when Wikipedia traditionally has less traffic. Comets, of the four ways that MOS advocates have been inappropriately applying endashes, is the most inappropriate, because there is actually a naming authority that names comets the same way they name planets - with only spaces and hyphens (after a name is given). In these move requests we always have a half a dozen or so MOS editors who want to enforce their view of how things should be spelled, regardless of common sense. While they made a perfectly logical decision, they came to a completely illogical conclusion. It happens. Someone simply needs to point that out. There is no reason for a few editors to think they have any right to tell all of the rest of us how to spell things. Apteva ( talk) 19:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the move review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the move review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Same as Seattle-Tacoma International Airport. 4:1 certainly can not be cited as Snow, nor does Snow apply to an uphill battle which might not succeed, not should a pejorative be used in reference to the close. The airport is clearly and obviously misspelled, and it is absurd for a few people at MOS who know nothing about airports to decide how airports should be spelled. The admin is not able to form an unbiased opinion and should have recused themself in favor of any one of the 800 other active admins. Apteva ( talk) 19:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the move review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the move review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
As with Aspen-Pitkin County Airport, 4:1 certainly can not be cited as Snow, nor does Snow apply to an uphill battle which might not succeed, not should a pejorative be used in reference to the close. The airport is clearly and obviously misspelled, and it is absurd for a few people at MOS who know nothing about airports to decide how airports should be spelled. The admin is not able to form an unbiased opinion and should have recused themself in favor of any one of the 800 other active admins. Apteva ( talk) 19:28, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the move review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |
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The following is an archived debate of the move review of the page above. Please do not modify it. |
Three reasons. First Snow does not apply when the vote is 2:1. Second Snow does not apply when fighting an uphill battle which might not succeed. Third, the use of the word disruptive in the close is a pejorative that is totally unwarranted as the airport clearly and obviously to anyone who knows anything about airports is misnamed and needs to be returned to its original name. Pejoratives have no place in Wikipedia. We always need to be fair and unbiased and always assume good faith. The closing admin, should this pattern persist, should be removed of their adminship. The closing admin was not capable of forming an unbiased opinion clearly having an ax to grind against the editor opening the RM, and should have had the wisdom to recuse themself from performing the close. There are about 800 active admins, so why would the one and only admin who has an ax to grind against this editor be the one who felt compelled to be the one and only admin to close this RM? Apteva ( talk) 18:36, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Before we get a bunch more repeated responses like PaleAqua's, can I propose that we treat these four as one, since they were are brought by the same guy, for essentially the same reason, and all closed by the same closer? Can we just discuss in this section instead of above? Dicklyon ( talk) 05:52, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
That is he or she thank you. This section is meaningless. Each close is being discussed separately, and it is not meaningful to combine them. Apteva ( talk) 04:43, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
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The above is an archive of the move review of the page listed in the heading. Please do not modify it. |