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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Delete both. For {{ User WikiProject Latin Former First Member}} this is an easy call as it is entirely unused. Userfication of {{ User WikiProject Latin First Member}} was specifically suggested to its one user at User talk:95jb14, but without response. Since the user has explicitly disclaimed the position, userfication seems unwanted and unnecessary. RL0919 ( talk) 16:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC) reply

These userboxes were created as part of an ill-conceived effort to establish a hierarchy at Wikiproject Latin. Consensus, and indeed WP policy, stand opposed ( discussion here). Deletion should be uncontroversial. Camenae ( talk) 06:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - The existence of the userboxes have nothing to do with consensus on the existence of what they declare. If an user wants to call himself "WP Latin First Member", however silly it sounds, why not let him/her do that? -- Cyclopia talk 12:04, 30 December 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Neutral - I agree with the hierarchial issue here but the problem has been addressed, why is it neccessary to delete them, i'll let the concensus decide. 95jb14 ( talk) 17:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC). reply
  • Delete, userboxes serve no purpose as the "office" they describe no longer exists (obviating the first) and never should have existed at all (obviating the second). + An gr 19:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Userfy per Wikipedia:Userbox migration to the userspace of whoever is interested in taking them. Current guidelines are that userboxes should rarely be placed in Template: space, mostly for indicating language skills. However, users are given a good deal of leeway in terms of having userboxes in the User: space. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Delete because Wikipedia is communism. @ harej 05:54, 2 January 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Delete both as useless, or userfy upon request per WP:UBM. A Stop at Willoughby ( talk) 23:12, 2 January 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Delete both - if the consensus is that the position ought not to exist, then the userboxes should not be preserved. In response to Cyclopia's question: it is misleading to claim to be a "First Member" because it suggests the existence of a hierarchy that does not and did not exist. While those who participated in the WikiProject discussion or in this MfD will be aware of the circumstances surrounding the title, we cannot assume that everyone will know not to take it too seriously. – BLACK FALCON ( TALK) 19:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was Delete both. For {{ User WikiProject Latin Former First Member}} this is an easy call as it is entirely unused. Userfication of {{ User WikiProject Latin First Member}} was specifically suggested to its one user at User talk:95jb14, but without response. Since the user has explicitly disclaimed the position, userfication seems unwanted and unnecessary. RL0919 ( talk) 16:20, 10 January 2010 (UTC) reply

These userboxes were created as part of an ill-conceived effort to establish a hierarchy at Wikiproject Latin. Consensus, and indeed WP policy, stand opposed ( discussion here). Deletion should be uncontroversial. Camenae ( talk) 06:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC) reply

  • Keep - The existence of the userboxes have nothing to do with consensus on the existence of what they declare. If an user wants to call himself "WP Latin First Member", however silly it sounds, why not let him/her do that? -- Cyclopia talk 12:04, 30 December 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Neutral - I agree with the hierarchial issue here but the problem has been addressed, why is it neccessary to delete them, i'll let the concensus decide. 95jb14 ( talk) 17:45, 30 December 2009 (UTC). reply
  • Delete, userboxes serve no purpose as the "office" they describe no longer exists (obviating the first) and never should have existed at all (obviating the second). + An gr 19:52, 30 December 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Userfy per Wikipedia:Userbox migration to the userspace of whoever is interested in taking them. Current guidelines are that userboxes should rarely be placed in Template: space, mostly for indicating language skills. However, users are given a good deal of leeway in terms of having userboxes in the User: space. -- Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:57, 1 January 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Delete because Wikipedia is communism. @ harej 05:54, 2 January 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Delete both as useless, or userfy upon request per WP:UBM. A Stop at Willoughby ( talk) 23:12, 2 January 2010 (UTC) reply
  • Delete both - if the consensus is that the position ought not to exist, then the userboxes should not be preserved. In response to Cyclopia's question: it is misleading to claim to be a "First Member" because it suggests the existence of a hierarchy that does not and did not exist. While those who participated in the WikiProject discussion or in this MfD will be aware of the circumstances surrounding the title, we cannot assume that everyone will know not to take it too seriously. – BLACK FALCON ( TALK) 19:09, 7 January 2010 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.



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