- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD ( talk) 22:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Lua/Modules
This page is broken, redundant to a namespace search, but also seems permanently broken. This tab essentially replicates the following search: Special:PrefixIndex/Module:. However, as seen throughout the course of this page's existence, when the page was first created, since the generic namespace search returns only 200 results at a time, the first 200 would be displayed, then the rest would not. Then, there was an attempt to break down the search into sections based on the alphabet; the problem that I saw with doing this is that the editor who does this has to estimate where they have to do more cutoffs to ensure that each individual search returns less than 200 results in order to display everything (which is always subject to change; also, if there ends up being more than 200 pages that starts with a letter, then it would be tedious to always display all results.) Finally, there was an attempt to turn the search into a Lua-based table, but the table does not seem functional, returning no results. At this point, I say even though this was a good faith attempt to display an accurate search, unless someone is willing to program a bot to update this page, that it's time to just delete this page while also possible adding a reference to Special:PrefixIndex/Module: somewhere for the search, and then remove the link to this nominated page from Template:WikiProject Lua header. Steel1943 ( talk) 18:51, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Also, if this page is deleted, the following will probably be eligible for speedy deletion criterion G8: Wikipedia:Lua/Modules/Overview, Wikipedia:Lua/Modules/Overview/Data, and Module:Module overview. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete, we have so many modules now that this kind of thing is not useful. Unless you categorise them by subject or purpose - but that's not what this page appears to be doing. It seems I had a bit of a hack at it a while ago; I don't remember why, or what I did exactly, but I wouldn't be sad at all if this was deleted. — This, that and the other (talk) 20:53, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. Some of the Lua features I used to make this module (i.e. allowing scripts access to the built-in page showing the list of all Lua modules) were pretty much deemed too useful and removed. I didn't touch it after that... I felt like even if I could think up another way to do it, that would just mean more features gotten rid of. I'm not going to argue this one. Wnt ( talk) 21:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- @ Wnt: Just a thought; would you like Module:Module overview userfied in your user space in the event this deletion happens? I mean, I nominated this for deletion since it's currently not useful, but with the right tweaks (as you said), that could be subject to change. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:06, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment why not just make the contents a link to Special:PrefixIndex/Module ? -- 65.94.43.89 ( talk) 05:07, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- The page seems to be designed in a way where Template:WikiProject Lua header is to be utilized at the top of the page so that it functions with the other Wikipedia:Lua subpages. Also, in regards to my concern above that Special:PrefixIndex/Module: should be stated somewhere: apparently, there has been a link for it present at Wikipedia:Lua#See also. In addition, most of the redirects to the "Special:" namespace are soft redirects, and to redirect this to Special:PrefixIndex/Module: has the potential for a reader to think that Wikipedia:Lua/Templates should redirect to Special:PrefixIndex/Template: (which doesn't make sense.) Steel1943 ( talk) 05:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- The way it originally worked was to produce a list of all the modules minus all the other crap (/testcases, /data/SouthDakota, Sandbox/ or whatever) and with the option of further optimization. But there's no point to having an extra link to the pregenerated prefixindex page. Wnt ( talk) 11:27, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- comment Being the last to contribute to the page, not long after modules were introduced, my changes were only a workaround to display all the modules then available. The methods used in the page can't possibly work in the longer term, as more and more modules are added. So the page as it now functions is not useful. As long as an alternative exists to list the modules available, the page should be deleted. Otherwise the page could be reworked to list between selected starting and ending points, to display with page breaks as necessary. Or something similar. Being able to list the modules available can be very useful at times. André437 ( talk) 19:11, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: If this discussion is closed to "delete", could the closing administrator please inform me in one way or another (via talk page or mention) so that I can be prompted to make the necessary changes to Template:WikiProject Lua header? Thanks. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was delete. JohnCD ( talk) 22:19, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Lua/Modules
This page is broken, redundant to a namespace search, but also seems permanently broken. This tab essentially replicates the following search: Special:PrefixIndex/Module:. However, as seen throughout the course of this page's existence, when the page was first created, since the generic namespace search returns only 200 results at a time, the first 200 would be displayed, then the rest would not. Then, there was an attempt to break down the search into sections based on the alphabet; the problem that I saw with doing this is that the editor who does this has to estimate where they have to do more cutoffs to ensure that each individual search returns less than 200 results in order to display everything (which is always subject to change; also, if there ends up being more than 200 pages that starts with a letter, then it would be tedious to always display all results.) Finally, there was an attempt to turn the search into a Lua-based table, but the table does not seem functional, returning no results. At this point, I say even though this was a good faith attempt to display an accurate search, unless someone is willing to program a bot to update this page, that it's time to just delete this page while also possible adding a reference to Special:PrefixIndex/Module: somewhere for the search, and then remove the link to this nominated page from Template:WikiProject Lua header. Steel1943 ( talk) 18:51, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: Also, if this page is deleted, the following will probably be eligible for speedy deletion criterion G8: Wikipedia:Lua/Modules/Overview, Wikipedia:Lua/Modules/Overview/Data, and Module:Module overview. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:22, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- Delete, we have so many modules now that this kind of thing is not useful. Unless you categorise them by subject or purpose - but that's not what this page appears to be doing. It seems I had a bit of a hack at it a while ago; I don't remember why, or what I did exactly, but I wouldn't be sad at all if this was deleted. — This, that and the other (talk) 20:53, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment. Some of the Lua features I used to make this module (i.e. allowing scripts access to the built-in page showing the list of all Lua modules) were pretty much deemed too useful and removed. I didn't touch it after that... I felt like even if I could think up another way to do it, that would just mean more features gotten rid of. I'm not going to argue this one. Wnt ( talk) 21:07, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- @ Wnt: Just a thought; would you like Module:Module overview userfied in your user space in the event this deletion happens? I mean, I nominated this for deletion since it's currently not useful, but with the right tweaks (as you said), that could be subject to change. Steel1943 ( talk) 22:06, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment why not just make the contents a link to Special:PrefixIndex/Module ? -- 65.94.43.89 ( talk) 05:07, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- The page seems to be designed in a way where Template:WikiProject Lua header is to be utilized at the top of the page so that it functions with the other Wikipedia:Lua subpages. Also, in regards to my concern above that Special:PrefixIndex/Module: should be stated somewhere: apparently, there has been a link for it present at Wikipedia:Lua#See also. In addition, most of the redirects to the "Special:" namespace are soft redirects, and to redirect this to Special:PrefixIndex/Module: has the potential for a reader to think that Wikipedia:Lua/Templates should redirect to Special:PrefixIndex/Template: (which doesn't make sense.) Steel1943 ( talk) 05:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- The way it originally worked was to produce a list of all the modules minus all the other crap (/testcases, /data/SouthDakota, Sandbox/ or whatever) and with the option of further optimization. But there's no point to having an extra link to the pregenerated prefixindex page. Wnt ( talk) 11:27, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
- comment Being the last to contribute to the page, not long after modules were introduced, my changes were only a workaround to display all the modules then available. The methods used in the page can't possibly work in the longer term, as more and more modules are added. So the page as it now functions is not useful. As long as an alternative exists to list the modules available, the page should be deleted. Otherwise the page could be reworked to list between selected starting and ending points, to display with page breaks as necessary. Or something similar. Being able to list the modules available can be very useful at times. André437 ( talk) 19:11, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
- Comment: If this discussion is closed to "delete", could the closing administrator please inform me in one way or another (via talk page or mention) so that I can be prompted to make the necessary changes to Template:WikiProject Lua header? Thanks. Steel1943 ( talk) 20:03, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.