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The result of the discussion was keep. It was extremely discourteous to move material from the userspace of an active user without consulting them, JohnCD ( talk) 10:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
User:Valfontis/Aloha Trailer Company
User:Godsy effectively deleted this stub by moving it back into the userspace. I think it could be built into a good little article by interested wikipedians, but as long as a single editor insists on relegating it to the basement to be forgotten, let's at least discuss what we want to do with it. Legacypac ( talk) 06:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep I had no idea anyone was moving things from my userspace to main space. Of course this isn't ready for main space! Because: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aloha Travel Trailers. I've been here a long time and I admit I'm not used to this whole "userspace draft" thing. So supposedly I can't let stuff hang around in my "basement" forever. So what do we do with this?
- If there is precedent (and if someone would kindly link to the MfD guidelines here because I'm extremely busy in real life and won't go hunt them up otherwise--Ive never had any of my userspace stuff deleted before), just delete it. Otherwise, "what to do with it" means researching and expanding it.
- My research involved going through the card catalog at the Oregon State Library, for starters, and from there I lost interest, for various reasons but as far as I know, "follow through" is not a pillar of the Wikipedia community, thank goodness. I preserved the article so I could use the resources on the talk page. This was before I was an admin. If it's deleted, I can certainly keep it around as a redlink but "out of sight, out of mind" is going to effectively make it so I never get around to doing it. Which isn't anyone's problem so someone can certainly feel free to take the project over.
- I haven't checked online in the six years since this article was created by a trailer enthusiast who I promised to help out and let down, but it's likely creating a viable article on this company is going involve a lot of library research in Oregon, as evidenced by the extensive and thoughtful AfD discussion by several longtime experienced Wikipedians. I no longer live in Salem and the State Library is no longer as publicly accessible as it once was, but feel free to try.
- And although I am extremely busy in real life right now, I do get an email when someone drops me a note on my user page, so feel free to ask me next time anyone decides to move stuff out of my user space. Which yeah, I know I know, I don't "own" that stuff but it would have been a courtesy. Because this "single editor", who has contributed 100s of articles to the project, feels that the statement that I am "insisting" on relegating this to the basement is a teensy bit rude. Your mileage may vary. Cheers, Valfontis ( talk) 13:49, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- keep, there's no need to rush with something like this, and obviously Valfontis (an elected admin) knows the criteria for moving to main space. Seems to me a simple discussion would have been more productive than a nomination. - Pete ( talk) 14:13, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep for now per Valfontis's wishes. But I've hung out at WP:REFUND for long enough to have seen the message that the various draftspaces are "not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia" a few hundred times now, and that should apply here within some bound. That said, Valfontis is an admin and can resurrect the content at any time. Finally, trouts to both @ Godsy: and @ Legacypac: for performing their respective actions in an admin's userspace without consulting them first. -- Finngall talk 17:07, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was keep. It was extremely discourteous to move material from the userspace of an active user without consulting them, JohnCD ( talk) 10:37, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
User:Valfontis/Aloha Trailer Company
User:Godsy effectively deleted this stub by moving it back into the userspace. I think it could be built into a good little article by interested wikipedians, but as long as a single editor insists on relegating it to the basement to be forgotten, let's at least discuss what we want to do with it. Legacypac ( talk) 06:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep I had no idea anyone was moving things from my userspace to main space. Of course this isn't ready for main space! Because: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aloha Travel Trailers. I've been here a long time and I admit I'm not used to this whole "userspace draft" thing. So supposedly I can't let stuff hang around in my "basement" forever. So what do we do with this?
- If there is precedent (and if someone would kindly link to the MfD guidelines here because I'm extremely busy in real life and won't go hunt them up otherwise--Ive never had any of my userspace stuff deleted before), just delete it. Otherwise, "what to do with it" means researching and expanding it.
- My research involved going through the card catalog at the Oregon State Library, for starters, and from there I lost interest, for various reasons but as far as I know, "follow through" is not a pillar of the Wikipedia community, thank goodness. I preserved the article so I could use the resources on the talk page. This was before I was an admin. If it's deleted, I can certainly keep it around as a redlink but "out of sight, out of mind" is going to effectively make it so I never get around to doing it. Which isn't anyone's problem so someone can certainly feel free to take the project over.
- I haven't checked online in the six years since this article was created by a trailer enthusiast who I promised to help out and let down, but it's likely creating a viable article on this company is going involve a lot of library research in Oregon, as evidenced by the extensive and thoughtful AfD discussion by several longtime experienced Wikipedians. I no longer live in Salem and the State Library is no longer as publicly accessible as it once was, but feel free to try.
- And although I am extremely busy in real life right now, I do get an email when someone drops me a note on my user page, so feel free to ask me next time anyone decides to move stuff out of my user space. Which yeah, I know I know, I don't "own" that stuff but it would have been a courtesy. Because this "single editor", who has contributed 100s of articles to the project, feels that the statement that I am "insisting" on relegating this to the basement is a teensy bit rude. Your mileage may vary. Cheers, Valfontis ( talk) 13:49, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- keep, there's no need to rush with something like this, and obviously Valfontis (an elected admin) knows the criteria for moving to main space. Seems to me a simple discussion would have been more productive than a nomination. - Pete ( talk) 14:13, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- Keep for now per Valfontis's wishes. But I've hung out at WP:REFUND for long enough to have seen the message that the various draftspaces are "not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia" a few hundred times now, and that should apply here within some bound. That said, Valfontis is an admin and can resurrect the content at any time. Finally, trouts to both @ Godsy: and @ Legacypac: for performing their respective actions in an admin's userspace without consulting them first. -- Finngall talk 17:07, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.