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Keep - This was never intended to be an article in any way, and it is just a page for me to paste stuff for me to keep track off. This whole request is stupid and I have to say the same about my other two pages.
Sria-72 (
talk)
18:40, 16 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete and warn the user. They are NOTWEBHOSTING and worse, egregiously, by writing false history. This is not compatible with Wikipedia, even in userspace. The user’s serious contributions are low and this userspace activity is not within reason leeway.
SmokeyJoe (
talk)
23:26, 16 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Wikipedia does not host material in subpages unless it is intended for actual usage in a WP article or is related in some way.
Noah,
AATalk17:50, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep - this is a subpage, not an actual page, it’s not an actual article, this request is stupid. -CarterStormTracking, 18:44, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
The two users claimed no knowledge of the server rule when confronted about this but it doesn’t make sense to me. However, they understood that this is not allowed after I explained it to them. As kids they’re naturally going to act like kids. It appears this is an isolated incident and no action needs to be taken other than striking out the canvassed !vote.—
Jasper Deng(talk)01:27, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Most of the canvassing as of late seems to be individual ignorance of policy rather than either a calculated or coordinated attempt to subvert discussions despite knowing better. I have made an effort to stop canvassing when I have seen it. Most of the people involved were not familiar with the policy and stopped once they were warned. I honestly believe most of the habitual canvassers have been dealt with. I have turned in people who were trying to either recruit meatpuppets or blatantly canvass others for on wiki discussions in defiance of policy and prior warnings in order to prevent further disruption.
Noah,
AATalk19:06, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Question for
User:Sria-72 - Do they think that this use of subpages to paste stuff to keep track of is reasonable? Do they think that the editors at MFD are being unreasonable or stupid? If so, I am willing to ask a larger segment of the community at
Village Pump for their opinions. If the larger segment of the community thinks this is all right, I will accept the advice of the community and change my !vote, and maybe other editors will also. If we are acting hastily, maybe we should get more advice.
Robert McClenon (
talk)
16:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I do think that subpages are a good place to paste stuff, due to Wikipedia running on MediaWiki. This often is why I use sandboxes and my other subpages, mainly for testing code (which, essentially is what the hypothetical timelines are). I always assumed that "sandbox" meant that I could just test stuff there, related to Wikipedia or not. I admit calling Jasper stupid was not right for me to say, but I definitely feel as if this could have been discussed with me first before going straight for a MFD submission.
I re-read Wikipedia policy and I do admit I wasn't aware of the NOWEBHOSTING rule before this. I had seen other people do this so I assumed it was okay since no action had been taken against them. I would appreciate you do bring this up at the Village Pump.
Sria-72 (
talk)
20:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
Keep - This was never intended to be an article in any way, and it is just a page for me to paste stuff for me to keep track off. This whole request is stupid and I have to say the same about my other two pages.
Sria-72 (
talk)
18:40, 16 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete and warn the user. They are NOTWEBHOSTING and worse, egregiously, by writing false history. This is not compatible with Wikipedia, even in userspace. The user’s serious contributions are low and this userspace activity is not within reason leeway.
SmokeyJoe (
talk)
23:26, 16 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Delete Wikipedia does not host material in subpages unless it is intended for actual usage in a WP article or is related in some way.
Noah,
AATalk17:50, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Keep - this is a subpage, not an actual page, it’s not an actual article, this request is stupid. -CarterStormTracking, 18:44, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
The two users claimed no knowledge of the server rule when confronted about this but it doesn’t make sense to me. However, they understood that this is not allowed after I explained it to them. As kids they’re naturally going to act like kids. It appears this is an isolated incident and no action needs to be taken other than striking out the canvassed !vote.—
Jasper Deng(talk)01:27, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Most of the canvassing as of late seems to be individual ignorance of policy rather than either a calculated or coordinated attempt to subvert discussions despite knowing better. I have made an effort to stop canvassing when I have seen it. Most of the people involved were not familiar with the policy and stopped once they were warned. I honestly believe most of the habitual canvassers have been dealt with. I have turned in people who were trying to either recruit meatpuppets or blatantly canvass others for on wiki discussions in defiance of policy and prior warnings in order to prevent further disruption.
Noah,
AATalk19:06, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
Question for
User:Sria-72 - Do they think that this use of subpages to paste stuff to keep track of is reasonable? Do they think that the editors at MFD are being unreasonable or stupid? If so, I am willing to ask a larger segment of the community at
Village Pump for their opinions. If the larger segment of the community thinks this is all right, I will accept the advice of the community and change my !vote, and maybe other editors will also. If we are acting hastily, maybe we should get more advice.
Robert McClenon (
talk)
16:26, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
I do think that subpages are a good place to paste stuff, due to Wikipedia running on MediaWiki. This often is why I use sandboxes and my other subpages, mainly for testing code (which, essentially is what the hypothetical timelines are). I always assumed that "sandbox" meant that I could just test stuff there, related to Wikipedia or not. I admit calling Jasper stupid was not right for me to say, but I definitely feel as if this could have been discussed with me first before going straight for a MFD submission.
I re-read Wikipedia policy and I do admit I wasn't aware of the NOWEBHOSTING rule before this. I had seen other people do this so I assumed it was okay since no action had been taken against them. I would appreciate you do bring this up at the Village Pump.
Sria-72 (
talk)
20:39, 18 September 2023 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.