- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was Withdrawn Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 05:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Speedy declined since page was MFD'd in the past. First MFD closed as keep back in 2010. I still think this is very attack-y with language like "Don't you know people are total ass hats on the internet?" and "this hell hole of a bugged game". Even in personal space, this seems like crossing a line. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 23:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep. Same as last time. Was that a Gaming attempt, trying CSD on a page that you couldn't get deleted previously? This page does not really attack anybody. The statements about Jimbo are more or less fair critism. Or was Essjay not fat? Censoring unpalatable opinions is bad practice. This page is an interesting part of our history. Many people leave in a huff. Usually they return. Havok wasn't a very committed leaver and doesn't belong on Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 10:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- No it wasn't a gaming attempt. I forgot I had MFD'd the page before. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 18:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- If it really was an error on your part, I think you should request speedy close on this MfD. Proposing an MfD, having that fail, then proposing CSD, then have that fail, then proposing a second MfD is borderline harassment of another user. -- Surturz ( talk) 04:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- Blank and keep. There are some clearly inflammatory statements violating WP:Etiquette, but also some reasonable criticism of Wikipedia and explanation of the user's reasons for leaving, which he has every right to state. If the user ever comes back, the text should be available for use. G. C. Hood ( talk) 16:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Note that the user continued to edit, at much the same sporadic rate as before. He has122 subsequent edits, the most recent on 20 March 2012. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 03:45, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- Tag as essay and keep. Valid user essay. Actually, I'd recommend that this essay be mandatory reading for all new admins. -- Surturz ( talk) 04:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was Withdrawn Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 05:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
Speedy declined since page was MFD'd in the past. First MFD closed as keep back in 2010. I still think this is very attack-y with language like "Don't you know people are total ass hats on the internet?" and "this hell hole of a bugged game". Even in personal space, this seems like crossing a line. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 23:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
- Keep. Same as last time. Was that a Gaming attempt, trying CSD on a page that you couldn't get deleted previously? This page does not really attack anybody. The statements about Jimbo are more or less fair critism. Or was Essjay not fat? Censoring unpalatable opinions is bad practice. This page is an interesting part of our history. Many people leave in a huff. Usually they return. Havok wasn't a very committed leaver and doesn't belong on Wikipedia:Missing Wikipedians. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 10:02, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- No it wasn't a gaming attempt. I forgot I had MFD'd the page before. Ten Pound Hammer • ( What did I screw up now?) 18:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- If it really was an error on your part, I think you should request speedy close on this MfD. Proposing an MfD, having that fail, then proposing CSD, then have that fail, then proposing a second MfD is borderline harassment of another user. -- Surturz ( talk) 04:28, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- Blank and keep. There are some clearly inflammatory statements violating WP:Etiquette, but also some reasonable criticism of Wikipedia and explanation of the user's reasons for leaving, which he has every right to state. If the user ever comes back, the text should be available for use. G. C. Hood ( talk) 16:00, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
- Note that the user continued to edit, at much the same sporadic rate as before. He has122 subsequent edits, the most recent on 20 March 2012. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 03:45, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- Tag as essay and keep. Valid user essay. Actually, I'd recommend that this essay be mandatory reading for all new admins. -- Surturz ( talk) 04:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.