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The result of the discussion was: keep . Withdrawn. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 11:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
User:A Texas Historian/Forest Highway 61
WP:STALEDRAFT on a road that, despite what look like a lot of sources, is not really notable. “Highway” may be its official designation but is not an accurate descriptor. This is a very short gravel road that provides access seven or eight houses and a campground with about 10 sites. No substantive edits since being userfied six years ago.
Beeblebrox (
talk) 19:42, 20 June 2018 (UTC) Withdrawn, see below.
Beeblebrox (
talk) 23:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. We don't need articles on campground access roads. — Scott5114 ↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 20:47, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - A Texas Historian is active, i.e. they have contributed as recently as May 29, 2018. Active editors are de facto allowed to retain non-afc userspace drafts indefinitely unless they are truly problematic, which I do not believe this is. I can elaborate on the larger issue if anyone is interested, just ping me. — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 21:35, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - As per Godsy. Is the draft doing any harm? My own thinking is that the mere fact that this strip has a USFS number is at least as notable as your run-of-the-mill corporation and would survive in mainspace, so let it survive in user space. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:33, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, WP:STALEDRAFT, which of course I jst re-acquainted myself with, says that if you believe it could survive in mainspace that it should be moved there instead of being hidden away in userspace indefinitely. Obviously that shouldn’t happen while this discussion is open, but if you do belive that it probably is the right move. I don’t happen to agree, this is a lot of puffery in my opinion, making a very, very minor road look much more important than it is. The idea (expressed in the draft) that Primrose is a city with a central area is laughable. I don’t see how having a designation from the agency that built it confers automatic notability. I haven’t been over there in some time, but I doubt you would even see that designation posted there as we don’t really do that up here. Roads are known by names, not numbers, in Alaska, and this isn’t a highway in the normally understood sense of the word, even if it is designated as one for bureaucratic purposes. Beeblebrox ( talk) 01:15, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Request withdrawn You know what, I took a break in 2016 and somehow missed until just now that we don’t delete stale drafts in userspace anymore if the user is still around. I don’t believe we need an article on this, but as a matter of policy I am forced to conclude my nomination is invalid and therefore withdrawn. Since there is one good faith delete vote I will leave it for others to decide hw best to close it.
Beeblebrox (
talk) 23:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete there is no policy basis for a prohibition on deleting any page like this. Not useful and stale. Legacypac ( talk) 06:55, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, obviously, per nom. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:12, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep It is well sourced, and even if not significant enough itself, could be merged somewhere else. Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 12:42, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Godsy, and because no valid policy-based reson for deletion has been stated in this discussion. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 17:55, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: keep . Withdrawn. ♠ PMC♠ (talk) 11:40, 28 June 2018 (UTC)
User:A Texas Historian/Forest Highway 61
WP:STALEDRAFT on a road that, despite what look like a lot of sources, is not really notable. “Highway” may be its official designation but is not an accurate descriptor. This is a very short gravel road that provides access seven or eight houses and a campground with about 10 sites. No substantive edits since being userfied six years ago.
Beeblebrox (
talk) 19:42, 20 June 2018 (UTC) Withdrawn, see below.
Beeblebrox (
talk) 23:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete. We don't need articles on campground access roads. — Scott5114 ↗ [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 20:47, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - A Texas Historian is active, i.e. they have contributed as recently as May 29, 2018. Active editors are de facto allowed to retain non-afc userspace drafts indefinitely unless they are truly problematic, which I do not believe this is. I can elaborate on the larger issue if anyone is interested, just ping me. — Godsy ( TALK CONT) 21:35, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep - As per Godsy. Is the draft doing any harm? My own thinking is that the mere fact that this strip has a USFS number is at least as notable as your run-of-the-mill corporation and would survive in mainspace, so let it survive in user space. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:33, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Well, WP:STALEDRAFT, which of course I jst re-acquainted myself with, says that if you believe it could survive in mainspace that it should be moved there instead of being hidden away in userspace indefinitely. Obviously that shouldn’t happen while this discussion is open, but if you do belive that it probably is the right move. I don’t happen to agree, this is a lot of puffery in my opinion, making a very, very minor road look much more important than it is. The idea (expressed in the draft) that Primrose is a city with a central area is laughable. I don’t see how having a designation from the agency that built it confers automatic notability. I haven’t been over there in some time, but I doubt you would even see that designation posted there as we don’t really do that up here. Roads are known by names, not numbers, in Alaska, and this isn’t a highway in the normally understood sense of the word, even if it is designated as one for bureaucratic purposes. Beeblebrox ( talk) 01:15, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
Request withdrawn You know what, I took a break in 2016 and somehow missed until just now that we don’t delete stale drafts in userspace anymore if the user is still around. I don’t believe we need an article on this, but as a matter of policy I am forced to conclude my nomination is invalid and therefore withdrawn. Since there is one good faith delete vote I will leave it for others to decide hw best to close it.
Beeblebrox (
talk) 23:00, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
- Delete there is no policy basis for a prohibition on deleting any page like this. Not useful and stale. Legacypac ( talk) 06:55, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep, obviously, per nom. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 15:12, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep It is well sourced, and even if not significant enough itself, could be merged somewhere else. Graeme Bartlett ( talk) 12:42, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- Keep per Godsy, and because no valid policy-based reson for deletion has been stated in this discussion. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 17:55, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.