- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗ plicit 12:44, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Unused Migrated Userboxes
- Template:Console gamer ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Democrat Wikipedians ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Pro-Assad ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Proud USA ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Republican Wikipedians ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:State death penalty ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:UBX-nes ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:UBX-nintendoswitch ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:UBX-nintendoswitchlite ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:UBX-prequelhate ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User browser:Mozilla Firefox ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User WP Magnussen ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User WP Maldonado ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Userbox Magnussen ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Userbox/POC ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Userbox/User tries kind ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
All unused and have since been converted into userboxes using the proper namespace of "User". All I assume were created in the template space because these are templates, but a specific type of templates, by mistake or by default to then later change into the proper namespace. But they are now converted or migrated userboxes that are being used across user pages. No point in keeping them in the template space. Can be redirected if users wish to see that. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 00:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Yes, I did that.
The specific type of template is called a userbox.The process that I'm following is called migration and is described here and here. I realize you might not have seen it yourself, but there have been a lot of these MfDs (and, incorrectly, TfDs) lately, such as this one, and this one, and this one. I've been rather patient and just !voted delete each time, but I want to reiterate that these should be speedy deleted once all transclusions are updated. That's why there a maintenance category for it. Going forward, there shouldn't be any need to blow up my talk page with a dozen notification templates at a time (though I do appreciate singular notices, of course). Also, since you bring up the suggestion of redirects, I'll reiterate that I oppose redirects because most of these userboxes never should have been in the template namespace to begin with, so they certainly don't deserve a redirect from template space to user space. Thanks. — void xor 01:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)- Editors won't know of this MfD like they didn't about the others (just as I didn't know before I nominated one myself). For future templates, you could just nominate these as speedy yourself to save you having to receive notifications.
Gonnym (
talk) 06:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, that occurred to me and I'll probably start doing it because it's obvious that no admin is watching the maintenance category. Anybody can tag them for speedy deletion, though; it doesn't have to be me.
- I recognized above that the nom may not have known about the others, but they obviously didn't do their homework before opening this one. A simple glance at my user talk page, the first link within the template under discussion, or the documentation thereof would have provided some of the needed background, such as what a userbox is or about the userbox migration. In general, I think nominating something (or several things) for deletion without bothering to understand what it is first is a bad idea.
- Also, the first editor to bomb my user talk page has a history. Others are blindly following that bad precedent. This nom didn't even use Twinkle so there really is no excuse for not grouping it into one notice. This is a single MfD, after all. —
void
xor 22:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry with all those notifications, you can remove them from your talk page, instead of keep going on about them. Second, these were nominated from an unused database report and all are or soon to be were under
Category:Migrated userbox stubs. So it's not fair to say I didn't do my homework before starting this nomination. I'm aware of the userbox migration and its history from previous discussions either at Tfd's or Mfd's. And lastly, I choose not to use Twinkle. I'd like to do it manually and that's my choice. --
WikiCleanerMan (
talk) 22:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's all fine. Most of my frustration isn't with you specifically, but the rather the sudden onslaught of TfDs and MfDs and the lack of admin support when I'm just following the documented process. Sorry, but I respectfully disagree about whether you did your homework. Your request was all over the map. By your own admission, you don't know what these are, why these were created, or why they were moved. You clearly didn't bother to check their history, my talk page, recent TfDs, or
the documentation of the very template used on all of these "specific type of template". If you have experience with the userbox migration, you could have been more specific instead of assuming. The notices on my talk page will eventually be automatically archived; I was not "going on about them" as much as I was venting the fourth time it happened and then responding to Gonnym's suggestion. Lastly, my mention of Twinkle wasn't a criticism as much as an observation that you can't blame automation for the quantity on my talk page (as others have). —
void
xor 00:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- If I didn't know what these were, then I wouldn't have nominated them. Clearly false. And you're reading the nomination all wrong. But nonetheless, the matter has been dealt with. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 01:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's all fine. Most of my frustration isn't with you specifically, but the rather the sudden onslaught of TfDs and MfDs and the lack of admin support when I'm just following the documented process. Sorry, but I respectfully disagree about whether you did your homework. Your request was all over the map. By your own admission, you don't know what these are, why these were created, or why they were moved. You clearly didn't bother to check their history, my talk page, recent TfDs, or
the documentation of the very template used on all of these "specific type of template". If you have experience with the userbox migration, you could have been more specific instead of assuming. The notices on my talk page will eventually be automatically archived; I was not "going on about them" as much as I was venting the fourth time it happened and then responding to Gonnym's suggestion. Lastly, my mention of Twinkle wasn't a criticism as much as an observation that you can't blame automation for the quantity on my talk page (as others have). —
void
xor 00:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry with all those notifications, you can remove them from your talk page, instead of keep going on about them. Second, these were nominated from an unused database report and all are or soon to be were under
Category:Migrated userbox stubs. So it's not fair to say I didn't do my homework before starting this nomination. I'm aware of the userbox migration and its history from previous discussions either at Tfd's or Mfd's. And lastly, I choose not to use Twinkle. I'd like to do it manually and that's my choice. --
WikiCleanerMan (
talk) 22:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Editors won't know of this MfD like they didn't about the others (just as I didn't know before I nominated one myself). For future templates, you could just nominate these as speedy yourself to save you having to receive notifications.
Gonnym (
talk) 06:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom and agree with voidxor about opposing leaving these as redirects. Gonnym ( talk) 06:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. ✗ plicit 12:44, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Unused Migrated Userboxes
- Template:Console gamer ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Democrat Wikipedians ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Pro-Assad ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Proud USA ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Republican Wikipedians ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:State death penalty ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:UBX-nes ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:UBX-nintendoswitch ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:UBX-nintendoswitchlite ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:UBX-prequelhate ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User browser:Mozilla Firefox ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User WP Magnussen ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:User WP Maldonado ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Userbox Magnussen ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Userbox/POC ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
- Template:Userbox/User tries kind ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
All unused and have since been converted into userboxes using the proper namespace of "User". All I assume were created in the template space because these are templates, but a specific type of templates, by mistake or by default to then later change into the proper namespace. But they are now converted or migrated userboxes that are being used across user pages. No point in keeping them in the template space. Can be redirected if users wish to see that. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 00:10, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete. Yes, I did that.
The specific type of template is called a userbox.The process that I'm following is called migration and is described here and here. I realize you might not have seen it yourself, but there have been a lot of these MfDs (and, incorrectly, TfDs) lately, such as this one, and this one, and this one. I've been rather patient and just !voted delete each time, but I want to reiterate that these should be speedy deleted once all transclusions are updated. That's why there a maintenance category for it. Going forward, there shouldn't be any need to blow up my talk page with a dozen notification templates at a time (though I do appreciate singular notices, of course). Also, since you bring up the suggestion of redirects, I'll reiterate that I oppose redirects because most of these userboxes never should have been in the template namespace to begin with, so they certainly don't deserve a redirect from template space to user space. Thanks. — void xor 01:15, 26 February 2022 (UTC)- Editors won't know of this MfD like they didn't about the others (just as I didn't know before I nominated one myself). For future templates, you could just nominate these as speedy yourself to save you having to receive notifications.
Gonnym (
talk) 06:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Yeah, that occurred to me and I'll probably start doing it because it's obvious that no admin is watching the maintenance category. Anybody can tag them for speedy deletion, though; it doesn't have to be me.
- I recognized above that the nom may not have known about the others, but they obviously didn't do their homework before opening this one. A simple glance at my user talk page, the first link within the template under discussion, or the documentation thereof would have provided some of the needed background, such as what a userbox is or about the userbox migration. In general, I think nominating something (or several things) for deletion without bothering to understand what it is first is a bad idea.
- Also, the first editor to bomb my user talk page has a history. Others are blindly following that bad precedent. This nom didn't even use Twinkle so there really is no excuse for not grouping it into one notice. This is a single MfD, after all. —
void
xor 22:12, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry with all those notifications, you can remove them from your talk page, instead of keep going on about them. Second, these were nominated from an unused database report and all are or soon to be were under
Category:Migrated userbox stubs. So it's not fair to say I didn't do my homework before starting this nomination. I'm aware of the userbox migration and its history from previous discussions either at Tfd's or Mfd's. And lastly, I choose not to use Twinkle. I'd like to do it manually and that's my choice. --
WikiCleanerMan (
talk) 22:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's all fine. Most of my frustration isn't with you specifically, but the rather the sudden onslaught of TfDs and MfDs and the lack of admin support when I'm just following the documented process. Sorry, but I respectfully disagree about whether you did your homework. Your request was all over the map. By your own admission, you don't know what these are, why these were created, or why they were moved. You clearly didn't bother to check their history, my talk page, recent TfDs, or
the documentation of the very template used on all of these "specific type of template". If you have experience with the userbox migration, you could have been more specific instead of assuming. The notices on my talk page will eventually be automatically archived; I was not "going on about them" as much as I was venting the fourth time it happened and then responding to Gonnym's suggestion. Lastly, my mention of Twinkle wasn't a criticism as much as an observation that you can't blame automation for the quantity on my talk page (as others have). —
void
xor 00:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- If I didn't know what these were, then I wouldn't have nominated them. Clearly false. And you're reading the nomination all wrong. But nonetheless, the matter has been dealt with. -- WikiCleanerMan ( talk) 01:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- That's all fine. Most of my frustration isn't with you specifically, but the rather the sudden onslaught of TfDs and MfDs and the lack of admin support when I'm just following the documented process. Sorry, but I respectfully disagree about whether you did your homework. Your request was all over the map. By your own admission, you don't know what these are, why these were created, or why they were moved. You clearly didn't bother to check their history, my talk page, recent TfDs, or
the documentation of the very template used on all of these "specific type of template". If you have experience with the userbox migration, you could have been more specific instead of assuming. The notices on my talk page will eventually be automatically archived; I was not "going on about them" as much as I was venting the fourth time it happened and then responding to Gonnym's suggestion. Lastly, my mention of Twinkle wasn't a criticism as much as an observation that you can't blame automation for the quantity on my talk page (as others have). —
void
xor 00:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)
- Sorry with all those notifications, you can remove them from your talk page, instead of keep going on about them. Second, these were nominated from an unused database report and all are or soon to be were under
Category:Migrated userbox stubs. So it's not fair to say I didn't do my homework before starting this nomination. I'm aware of the userbox migration and its history from previous discussions either at Tfd's or Mfd's. And lastly, I choose not to use Twinkle. I'd like to do it manually and that's my choice. --
WikiCleanerMan (
talk) 22:33, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Editors won't know of this MfD like they didn't about the others (just as I didn't know before I nominated one myself). For future templates, you could just nominate these as speedy yourself to save you having to receive notifications.
Gonnym (
talk) 06:28, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom. * Pppery * it has begun... 01:26, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
- Delete all per nom and agree with voidxor about opposing leaving these as redirects. Gonnym ( talk) 06:26, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.