The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 04:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
All prior XfDs for this page: |
Almost-abandoned mini-portal, with almost no readers. Mostly just a collection of decade-old unsourced content forks and fake DYKs. Redundant to the head article Wicca, which readers prefer by a ratio of over 200:1.
The abandonment is presumably why the portal was converted [1] in January 2019 by @ The Transhumanist (TTH) to a wholly-automated format which cloned the navbox Template:Wicca. This made it just a bloated redundant fork of the said navbox, so in May 2019 I reverted it [2] to the last non-automated version. (For an explanation of why that type of automated portal is redundant, see the two mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals).
Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Wicca lists a modest set of sub-pages:
WP:POG requires that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". But in practice, this portal has not attracted maintainers, and it has also been shunned by readers: in January–June 2019, the portal got only 14 page views per day, while the head article Wicca got 2,767 daily views. In others words, the head article got 203.6 times as many views as the portal.
Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Wicca and its comprehensive navbox Template:Contemporary witchcraft.
Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.
Those new technologies set a high bar for any portal which actually tries to add value for the reader. But this portals fails the basic requirements even of the guidelines written before the new technologies changed the game. Time to just delete it. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 12:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Title | Portal Page Views | Article Page Views | Ratio | Percent | Comments | Articles | Notes | Type |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Wicca | 13 | 2825 | 217.31 | 0.46% | Originator inactive since 2011. No substantive maintenance since 2011, although tweaked in 2018. | 16 | Religion | |
Spirituality | 26 | 1235 | 47.50 | 2.11% | Originator inactive since 2005. 5 articles, last added in 2016. | 5 | Religion | |
Occult | 64 | 1307 | 20.42 | 4.90% | Originator edited sporadically, last in 2018. Appear to have been no substantive updates to 9 articles since 2014. | 9 | Religion | |
Religion | 79 | 2899 | 36.70 | 2.73% | Originator inactive since 2011. Has 85 articles and complete calendar, but no sign of maintenance since 2009. | 85 | Religion | |
As can be seen, the related portals are not being well maintained either, but have more readers than this portal does. This portal is not about to start attracting readers or maintainers. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:43, 10 July 2019 (UTC)
The result of the discussion was: delete. — JJMC89 ( T· C) 04:19, 18 July 2019 (UTC)
All prior XfDs for this page: |
Almost-abandoned mini-portal, with almost no readers. Mostly just a collection of decade-old unsourced content forks and fake DYKs. Redundant to the head article Wicca, which readers prefer by a ratio of over 200:1.
The abandonment is presumably why the portal was converted [1] in January 2019 by @ The Transhumanist (TTH) to a wholly-automated format which cloned the navbox Template:Wicca. This made it just a bloated redundant fork of the said navbox, so in May 2019 I reverted it [2] to the last non-automated version. (For an explanation of why that type of automated portal is redundant, see the two mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals).
Special:PrefixIndex/Portal:Wicca lists a modest set of sub-pages:
WP:POG requires that portals should be about "broad subject areas, which are likely to attract large numbers of interested readers and portal maintainers". But in practice, this portal has not attracted maintainers, and it has also been shunned by readers: in January–June 2019, the portal got only 14 page views per day, while the head article Wicca got 2,767 daily views. In others words, the head article got 203.6 times as many views as the portal.
Per WP:PORTAL, "Portals serve as enhanced 'Main Pages' for specific broad subjects". But this is massively less useful in every respect than the head article Wicca and its comprehensive navbox Template:Contemporary witchcraft.
Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.
Those new technologies set a high bar for any portal which actually tries to add value for the reader. But this portals fails the basic requirements even of the guidelines written before the new technologies changed the game. Time to just delete it. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 12:53, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
Title | Portal Page Views | Article Page Views | Ratio | Percent | Comments | Articles | Notes | Type |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Wicca | 13 | 2825 | 217.31 | 0.46% | Originator inactive since 2011. No substantive maintenance since 2011, although tweaked in 2018. | 16 | Religion | |
Spirituality | 26 | 1235 | 47.50 | 2.11% | Originator inactive since 2005. 5 articles, last added in 2016. | 5 | Religion | |
Occult | 64 | 1307 | 20.42 | 4.90% | Originator edited sporadically, last in 2018. Appear to have been no substantive updates to 9 articles since 2014. | 9 | Religion | |
Religion | 79 | 2899 | 36.70 | 2.73% | Originator inactive since 2011. Has 85 articles and complete calendar, but no sign of maintenance since 2009. | 85 | Religion | |
As can be seen, the related portals are not being well maintained either, but have more readers than this portal does. This portal is not about to start attracting readers or maintainers. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:43, 10 July 2019 (UTC)