The result of the debate was Delete, after discounting sockpuppets. Improv's argument for regional portals is interesting, but a portal this controversial is not the best test case for expanding portal coverage generally. Xoloz 14:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete - This portal on a council area of Scotland has just been started as part of a growing WP:POINT campaign. As far as I am aware we are not intending on creating portals for every local authority in the UK (please no!). As it stands at present, apart from being of low quality, it is a breach of WP:NPOV and WP:Content forking, but I would argue that its very existence at all is highly POV.
The same Mallimak ( talk · contribs) who created this portal has also recently created:
and used, to our knowledge, at least 16 IP addresses to attempt evasion as he removes all references to Scotland from every Orkney-related article he can, including removing the correct categories and stub categories, eg. -- Mais oui! 07:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I had been warned that Wikipedia can be a bit of a “bear pit” at times! I have been exploring the various links to talk pages and find that I have been accused of being a “sock puppet” and am being watched, and I have come across some pretty nasty comments about User:Mallimak. I get the impression that the calls for the deletion of the Orkney Portal and the Orcadian Wikipedians’ notice board are part of a vendetta, principally aimed at Mallimak, the originator of both these pages.
As an Orcadian myself, I feel I must stand up for what Mallimak appears to be trying to do. If the aim of Wikipedia is to become a comprehensive on-line encyclopaedia, it surely needs informative articles about Orkney, its history, dialect, people, etc., just as it needs such articles about other places. What better way for this to be achieved than to have articles supplied by an Orcadian who (as far as I can see) knows what s/he is talking about.
The articles Mallimak writes are “encyclopaedic” and the information in them corresponds precisely to what one will read when browsing the shelves of new Orkney books in the Orcadian Bookshop in Kirkwall or when searching the archives of the Orkney Library. Mallimak’s insistence on the use of the term “Orcadian”, for example, is entirely correct and conforms to standard usage.
I can understand Mallimak’s frustration at having his/her work constantly altered by inappropriate edits by User:Mais oui! (I have spent some time looking, and they certainly seem inappropriate to me, and solely designed to make a point.)
As a resolution to this “edit war”, I humbly suggest a “cease fire” whereby Mais oui! agrees not to edit any article originated by Mallimak, and Mallimak agrees not to edit any article originated by Mais oui!
I hope when I come to make more contributions about Orkney myself that they receive better treatment than other Orcadian articles have up until now.
Orkadian 17:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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The result of the debate was Delete, after discounting sockpuppets. Improv's argument for regional portals is interesting, but a portal this controversial is not the best test case for expanding portal coverage generally. Xoloz 14:46, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Delete - This portal on a council area of Scotland has just been started as part of a growing WP:POINT campaign. As far as I am aware we are not intending on creating portals for every local authority in the UK (please no!). As it stands at present, apart from being of low quality, it is a breach of WP:NPOV and WP:Content forking, but I would argue that its very existence at all is highly POV.
The same Mallimak ( talk · contribs) who created this portal has also recently created:
and used, to our knowledge, at least 16 IP addresses to attempt evasion as he removes all references to Scotland from every Orkney-related article he can, including removing the correct categories and stub categories, eg. -- Mais oui! 07:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
I had been warned that Wikipedia can be a bit of a “bear pit” at times! I have been exploring the various links to talk pages and find that I have been accused of being a “sock puppet” and am being watched, and I have come across some pretty nasty comments about User:Mallimak. I get the impression that the calls for the deletion of the Orkney Portal and the Orcadian Wikipedians’ notice board are part of a vendetta, principally aimed at Mallimak, the originator of both these pages.
As an Orcadian myself, I feel I must stand up for what Mallimak appears to be trying to do. If the aim of Wikipedia is to become a comprehensive on-line encyclopaedia, it surely needs informative articles about Orkney, its history, dialect, people, etc., just as it needs such articles about other places. What better way for this to be achieved than to have articles supplied by an Orcadian who (as far as I can see) knows what s/he is talking about.
The articles Mallimak writes are “encyclopaedic” and the information in them corresponds precisely to what one will read when browsing the shelves of new Orkney books in the Orcadian Bookshop in Kirkwall or when searching the archives of the Orkney Library. Mallimak’s insistence on the use of the term “Orcadian”, for example, is entirely correct and conforms to standard usage.
I can understand Mallimak’s frustration at having his/her work constantly altered by inappropriate edits by User:Mais oui! (I have spent some time looking, and they certainly seem inappropriate to me, and solely designed to make a point.)
As a resolution to this “edit war”, I humbly suggest a “cease fire” whereby Mais oui! agrees not to edit any article originated by Mallimak, and Mallimak agrees not to edit any article originated by Mais oui!
I hope when I come to make more contributions about Orkney myself that they receive better treatment than other Orcadian articles have up until now.
Orkadian 17:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
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Please see: Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Mallimak. -- Mais oui! 20:55, 18 August 2006 (UTC)