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The result of the discussion was: Delete. — xaosflux Talk 23:21, 29 May 2019 (UTC) reply

Portal:Munich

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All prior XfDs for this page:

This portal was created on 23 March 2007‎ by a Kingjeff ( talk · contribs). After a two-year abandonment, it was nominated for deletion by B. That nomination closed with no consensus. Agathoclea made it into a redirect to Portal:Bavaria with a commitment to continue working on the portal.

Fast forward 10 years later, and here we are. TTH began the process of automating it (13 July 2018‎). As with other related nominations today, it was made to select content from Outline of Munich.

I temporarily restored the redirect per WP:WOOD, but that did not sit well with me. The previous MfD included a statement by Tikiwont that this could be revisited later. I figured now is as good of a time as any.

This portal has sat abandoned for nearly ten years. No maintainers have come forward in that time, but I leave open the possibility future maintainers may be found as this sizeable city certainly meets WP:POG.
I therefore propose this portal be deleted without prejudice to its recreation at a later date following whatever future consensus may be in place for portal content. MJLTalk 16:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC) reply

The re-creation in 2019 by TTH just made it an automated clone of Outline of Munich, which is redundant for the reasons which I set out in WP:Miscellany for deletion/City portals cloned from outline pages. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 16:40, 22 May 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Concur with analysis by MJL and by BHG. Portal has 3 average daily pageviews, as opposed to 3059 for city article. Robert McClenon ( talk) 19:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. I just found this portion of WP:WPPORT's newsletters, and I figured I should share it.

Getting faster

Automation makes things go faster, even portal creation. One of the components Certes made was {{ Transclude list item excerpt}}. I became curious about its possible applications.

So I worked out a portal design using it, the initial prototypes being Portal:Kyoto (without a "Selected pictures" section), and Portal:Dubai (with a "Selected pictures" section). Then I used Portal:Dubai as the basis for further portals of this type...

I was able to revamp Portal:Munich from start to finish in less than 22 minutes.
Portal:Dresden took about 19 minutes.
Portal:Athens took less than 17 minutes.
Did Portal:Florence in about 13 minutes.
Portal:Stockholm also in about 13.
Portal:Palermo approx. 12 minutes.

Why?

To see, and to show, what may become feasible via automation.

It now looks highly feasible that we could get portal construction time down to a few minutes, or maybe even down to a few seconds.

The singularity is just around the corner. :)

In case anyone was curious how long it took to make these types of portals (or even why some were made). – MJLTalk 18:09, 23 May 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: Delete. — xaosflux Talk 23:21, 29 May 2019 (UTC) reply

Portal:Munich

Portal:Munich ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
All prior XfDs for this page:

This portal was created on 23 March 2007‎ by a Kingjeff ( talk · contribs). After a two-year abandonment, it was nominated for deletion by B. That nomination closed with no consensus. Agathoclea made it into a redirect to Portal:Bavaria with a commitment to continue working on the portal.

Fast forward 10 years later, and here we are. TTH began the process of automating it (13 July 2018‎). As with other related nominations today, it was made to select content from Outline of Munich.

I temporarily restored the redirect per WP:WOOD, but that did not sit well with me. The previous MfD included a statement by Tikiwont that this could be revisited later. I figured now is as good of a time as any.

This portal has sat abandoned for nearly ten years. No maintainers have come forward in that time, but I leave open the possibility future maintainers may be found as this sizeable city certainly meets WP:POG.
I therefore propose this portal be deleted without prejudice to its recreation at a later date following whatever future consensus may be in place for portal content. MJLTalk 16:28, 22 May 2019 (UTC) reply

The re-creation in 2019 by TTH just made it an automated clone of Outline of Munich, which is redundant for the reasons which I set out in WP:Miscellany for deletion/City portals cloned from outline pages. -- BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 16:40, 22 May 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete - Concur with analysis by MJL and by BHG. Portal has 3 average daily pageviews, as opposed to 3059 for city article. Robert McClenon ( talk) 19:00, 22 May 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment. I just found this portion of WP:WPPORT's newsletters, and I figured I should share it.

Getting faster

Automation makes things go faster, even portal creation. One of the components Certes made was {{ Transclude list item excerpt}}. I became curious about its possible applications.

So I worked out a portal design using it, the initial prototypes being Portal:Kyoto (without a "Selected pictures" section), and Portal:Dubai (with a "Selected pictures" section). Then I used Portal:Dubai as the basis for further portals of this type...

I was able to revamp Portal:Munich from start to finish in less than 22 minutes.
Portal:Dresden took about 19 minutes.
Portal:Athens took less than 17 minutes.
Did Portal:Florence in about 13 minutes.
Portal:Stockholm also in about 13.
Portal:Palermo approx. 12 minutes.

Why?

To see, and to show, what may become feasible via automation.

It now looks highly feasible that we could get portal construction time down to a few minutes, or maybe even down to a few seconds.

The singularity is just around the corner. :)

In case anyone was curious how long it took to make these types of portals (or even why some were made). – MJLTalk 18:09, 23 May 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.



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