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The result of the discussion was: delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 08:01, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Fraud
A navbox-cloned automated portal, redundant to its components.
Created [1] in February 2019 by Mr. Guye ( talk · contribs).
This is one of the last few dozen remaining fully-automated portals, out of over 4,000 created by @ The Transhumanist (TTH) and others. Most of the portal built off a single navbox were deleted two mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals. Over a thousand other automated portals have been deleted in other MFDs.
However, further analysis has shown that many other types automated portals are also redundant, including this one.
It draws its "selected articles" list solely from the lists on 4 other pages:
It draws its "selected images" list solely from the articles Fraud and Forgery.
Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
- mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links. Try it on e.g. Category:Deception or on Template:Fraud ... or any of the other pages listed above.
- automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal. Try it on any of the pages listed above.
Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.
This redundancy has been belatedly acknowledged by TTH, who wrote at the start of this month New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow).
Fraud may be seen as a broad topic which could satisfy WP:POG ... So I propose that this portal be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 01:00, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - A good sorceress knows to adjust her incantation to address the type of spirit to be dispelled. A baseline of 1 March - 30 April was used for the pageview metrics. The portal was viewed an average of 5 times daily. The head article was viewed an average of 1216 times daily. That does not count related articles. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:27, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per consensus from the mass nominations. SITH (talk) 12:06, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 08:01, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Fraud
A navbox-cloned automated portal, redundant to its components.
Created [1] in February 2019 by Mr. Guye ( talk · contribs).
This is one of the last few dozen remaining fully-automated portals, out of over 4,000 created by @ The Transhumanist (TTH) and others. Most of the portal built off a single navbox were deleted two mass deletions of similar portals: one, and two, where there was overwhelming consensus of a very high turnout to delete a total of 2,555 such portals. Over a thousand other automated portals have been deleted in other MFDs.
However, further analysis has shown that many other types automated portals are also redundant, including this one.
It draws its "selected articles" list solely from the lists on 4 other pages:
It draws its "selected images" list solely from the articles Fraud and Forgery.
Two newish features of the Wikimedia software means that the article and navboxes offers all the functionality which portals like this set out to offer. Both features are available only to ordinary readers who are not logged in, but you can test them without logging out by right-clicking on a link, and the select "open in private window" (in Firefox) or "open in incognito window" (Chrome).
- mouseover: on any link, mouseover shows you the picture and the start of the lead. So the preview-selected page-function of portals is redundant: something almost as good is available automatically on any navbox or other set of links. Try it on e.g. Category:Deception or on Template:Fraud ... or any of the other pages listed above.
- automatic imagery galleries: clicking on an image brings up an image gallery of all the images on that page. It's full-screen, so it's actually much better than even a click-for-next image gallery on a portal. Try it on any of the pages listed above.
Similar features have been available since 2015 to users of Wikipedia's Android app.
This redundancy has been belatedly acknowledged by TTH, who wrote at the start of this month New encyclopedia program features will likely eventually render most portals obsolete. For example, the pop-up feature of MediaWiki provides much the same functionality as excerpts in portals already, and there is also a slideshow feature to view all the images on the current page (just click on any image, and that activates the slideshow).
Fraud may be seen as a broad topic which could satisfy WP:POG ... So I propose that this portal be deleted per WP:TNT, without prejudice to recreating a curated portal in accordance with whatever criteria the community may have agreed at that time. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • ( contribs) 01:00, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - A good sorceress knows to adjust her incantation to address the type of spirit to be dispelled. A baseline of 1 March - 30 April was used for the pageview metrics. The portal was viewed an average of 5 times daily. The head article was viewed an average of 1216 times daily. That does not count related articles. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:27, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete per consensus from the mass nominations. SITH (talk) 12:06, 24 May 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.