- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus . RL0919 ( talk) 12:48, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Current events/November 1994
As background: these monthly pages (which are built from daily subpages, also in the Portal space) are effectively mainspace content: list of events occurring in a given month (day), and in my opinion belong in the mainspace, (this one duplicates content at
1994#November, to which the mainspace page
November 1994 redirects) and not in the Portal space. Earlier than some point in time, "Current events" is especially not the right space for them as the older and older months are (in good faith) retroactively created there. I would propose the non-current daily pages be merged with the year#month mainspace content and then deleted; the "parent" monthly portal pages should also be deleted. There was a previous 5-editor discussion that led to this at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Years/Archive 11#Using archives of Portal:Current events for month articles. Thoughts?
UnitedStatesian (
talk)
23:38, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support deleting everything up to, and including Portal:Current events/December_2001, which precedes the earliest contemporary page. That and anything before was edited retroactively. All of this content is basically lost because it's not linked to anywhere and most of the early entries I checked have no sources. I don't think it makes sense to even try to merge them. As for pages created after December 2001, keep them for historical value. Isa ( talk) 23:59, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- My research shows that
Portal:Current events/June 2002 and subsequent were created contemporaneously, though the structure was different between 2002 and 2006.
UnitedStatesian (
talk)
00:06, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, my mistake. I checked the history on a few days and saw most of them from 2007, without realizing that they were migrated. I'm also seeing sources earlier than 2006, I hadn't noticed they were in a reflist at the bottom. The earliest I can find then is Portal:Current_events/January_2002. I've modified my support above. Isa ( talk) 00:32, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- My research shows that
Portal:Current events/June 2002 and subsequent were created contemporaneously, though the structure was different between 2002 and 2006.
UnitedStatesian (
talk)
00:06, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- It seems a good idea, but mfd is not miscellany for discussion. No solid nominators “delete” rationale over archiving (note policy WP:ATD). It seems a good idea. Just do it, but archiving what you think should be deleted. — SmokeyJoe ( talk) 02:21, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- User:SmokeyJoe - You may have mistyped. You wrote "mfd is miscellany for discussion". Do you mean that it isn't? I thought that having MFD be Miscellany for Discussion was a perennial proposal that keeps getting voted down. Robert McClenon ( talk) 05:16, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. not inserted. — SmokeyJoe ( talk) 07:41, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus . RL0919 ( talk) 12:48, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
Portal:Current events/November 1994
As background: these monthly pages (which are built from daily subpages, also in the Portal space) are effectively mainspace content: list of events occurring in a given month (day), and in my opinion belong in the mainspace, (this one duplicates content at
1994#November, to which the mainspace page
November 1994 redirects) and not in the Portal space. Earlier than some point in time, "Current events" is especially not the right space for them as the older and older months are (in good faith) retroactively created there. I would propose the non-current daily pages be merged with the year#month mainspace content and then deleted; the "parent" monthly portal pages should also be deleted. There was a previous 5-editor discussion that led to this at
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Years/Archive 11#Using archives of Portal:Current events for month articles. Thoughts?
UnitedStatesian (
talk)
23:38, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- Support deleting everything up to, and including Portal:Current events/December_2001, which precedes the earliest contemporary page. That and anything before was edited retroactively. All of this content is basically lost because it's not linked to anywhere and most of the early entries I checked have no sources. I don't think it makes sense to even try to merge them. As for pages created after December 2001, keep them for historical value. Isa ( talk) 23:59, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
- My research shows that
Portal:Current events/June 2002 and subsequent were created contemporaneously, though the structure was different between 2002 and 2006.
UnitedStatesian (
talk)
00:06, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Okay, my mistake. I checked the history on a few days and saw most of them from 2007, without realizing that they were migrated. I'm also seeing sources earlier than 2006, I hadn't noticed they were in a reflist at the bottom. The earliest I can find then is Portal:Current_events/January_2002. I've modified my support above. Isa ( talk) 00:32, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- My research shows that
Portal:Current events/June 2002 and subsequent were created contemporaneously, though the structure was different between 2002 and 2006.
UnitedStatesian (
talk)
00:06, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- It seems a good idea, but mfd is not miscellany for discussion. No solid nominators “delete” rationale over archiving (note policy WP:ATD). It seems a good idea. Just do it, but archiving what you think should be deleted. — SmokeyJoe ( talk) 02:21, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- User:SmokeyJoe - You may have mistyped. You wrote "mfd is miscellany for discussion". Do you mean that it isn't? I thought that having MFD be Miscellany for Discussion was a perennial proposal that keeps getting voted down. Robert McClenon ( talk) 05:16, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. not inserted. — SmokeyJoe ( talk) 07:41, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.