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The result of the discussion was: delete both.
MER-C 10:35, 9 March 2019 (UTC)reply
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A portal in an area of discretionary sanctions. It presents snippets of articles that generally lack the context and balanced views of the big risks and criticisms of cryptocurrencies found in the actual articles. No human is writing these short versions with the knowledge they will be displayed, so we are not getting proper perspective, which could actually harm people. There are no references which goes against V. The category tree is also incomplete, emphasizing two crytos over all others. I can't see why anyone should be going to the Ref desks for advice on crypto.
Legacypac (
talk) 04:57, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete All- Regardless of what one thinks about portals in general, a portal in an area where Wikipedia is actively trying to reduce editing in order to reduce disruptive editing is a bad idea. Delete the portal.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 06:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Question - Are there any other portals in areas subject to discretionary sanctions?
Robert McClenon (
talk) 06:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - Oh. Yes. Plans for large numbers of counties in India. Maybe most of the counties are far enough away from the western border as to be safe.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 06:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Actually I don't see anything crypto-related listed at
WP:DSTOPICS; has the list not been updated, or am I just not seeing it?
UnitedStatesian (
talk) 17:37, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
A read of AN today shows even some of our most experienced admins don't fully grasp the various ways we impose sanctions here under different terms.
Legacypac (
talk) 18:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete all Nothing helpful is on the page which only serves to distract from the relevant articles.
Johnuniq (
talk) 09:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC) Updated for explicit delete on both pages.
Johnuniq (
talk) 22:07, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - Changed from Delete to Delete All in case any more cryptocurrencies are bundled in here.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 17:12, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - I have deleted one of the two entries from the transclusion list. We only need to list this once.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 17:15, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Thanks. I had redirected but forgot to delete from the list.
Legacypac (
talk) 17:31, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete all - do not add anything of value. --
K.e.coffman (
talk) 19:26, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Any page with this many moving parts that can be
created in 3 minutes has been created without much thought as to what it should contain and how it should be presented.
Legacypac (
talk) 19:32, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - I had theorized that
User:The Transhumanist was creating these portals because creating portals is fun. They questioned my assertion, implying that it is hard work to create portals and that they do it out of a sense of duty or something. Well, well. It appears that creating portals is fun.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 21:11, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Question - Does the warning above that only one revert in 24 hours is permitted apply to this MFD also?
Robert McClenon (
talk) 03:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete both.
MER-C 10:35, 9 March 2019 (UTC)reply
Editors who violate any listed restrictions may be blocked by any uninvolved administrator, even on a first offense.
An editor must be
aware before they can be sanctioned.
With respect to any reverting restrictions:
Edits made solely to enforce any clearly established consensus are exempt from all edit-warring restrictions. In order to be considered "clearly established" the consensus must be proven by prior talk-page discussion.
Edits made which remove or otherwise change any material placed by clearly established consensus, without first obtaining consensus to do so, may be treated in the same manner as clear vandalism.
Clear vandalism of any origin may be reverted without restriction.
Reverts of edits made by anonymous (IP) editors that are not vandalism are exempt from the 1RR but are subject to
the usual rules on edit warring. If you are in doubt, contact an administrator for assistance.
If you are unsure if your edit is appropriate, discuss it here on this talk page first. Remember: When in doubt, don't revert!
A portal in an area of discretionary sanctions. It presents snippets of articles that generally lack the context and balanced views of the big risks and criticisms of cryptocurrencies found in the actual articles. No human is writing these short versions with the knowledge they will be displayed, so we are not getting proper perspective, which could actually harm people. There are no references which goes against V. The category tree is also incomplete, emphasizing two crytos over all others. I can't see why anyone should be going to the Ref desks for advice on crypto.
Legacypac (
talk) 04:57, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete All- Regardless of what one thinks about portals in general, a portal in an area where Wikipedia is actively trying to reduce editing in order to reduce disruptive editing is a bad idea. Delete the portal.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 06:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Question - Are there any other portals in areas subject to discretionary sanctions?
Robert McClenon (
talk) 06:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - Oh. Yes. Plans for large numbers of counties in India. Maybe most of the counties are far enough away from the western border as to be safe.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 06:50, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Actually I don't see anything crypto-related listed at
WP:DSTOPICS; has the list not been updated, or am I just not seeing it?
UnitedStatesian (
talk) 17:37, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
A read of AN today shows even some of our most experienced admins don't fully grasp the various ways we impose sanctions here under different terms.
Legacypac (
talk) 18:22, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete all Nothing helpful is on the page which only serves to distract from the relevant articles.
Johnuniq (
talk) 09:09, 28 February 2019 (UTC) Updated for explicit delete on both pages.
Johnuniq (
talk) 22:07, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - Changed from Delete to Delete All in case any more cryptocurrencies are bundled in here.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 17:12, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - I have deleted one of the two entries from the transclusion list. We only need to list this once.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 17:15, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Thanks. I had redirected but forgot to delete from the list.
Legacypac (
talk) 17:31, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Delete all - do not add anything of value. --
K.e.coffman (
talk) 19:26, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Any page with this many moving parts that can be
created in 3 minutes has been created without much thought as to what it should contain and how it should be presented.
Legacypac (
talk) 19:32, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Comment - I had theorized that
User:The Transhumanist was creating these portals because creating portals is fun. They questioned my assertion, implying that it is hard work to create portals and that they do it out of a sense of duty or something. Well, well. It appears that creating portals is fun.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 21:11, 28 February 2019 (UTC)reply
Question - Does the warning above that only one revert in 24 hours is permitted apply to this MFD also?
Robert McClenon (
talk) 03:17, 3 March 2019 (UTC)reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's
talk page or in a
deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.