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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: Delete. Any "merging" can be made editorially by adding content where approriate. — xaosflux Talk 23:32, 7 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Portal:Bottled water

Portal:Bottled water ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Portal:Energy drinks ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Portal:Soft drinks ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Way too narrow scope for these portals. CoolSkittle ( talk) 03:53, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Keep Portal:Soft drinks – Meets WP:POG, covers a broad subject area that includes global distribution and interest, and has plenty of potential for expansion, in part as per available content listed under Category:Soft drinks.
  • Redirect Portal:Bottled water to Portal:Water – I added some content to the Water portal to cover bottled water.
  • No opinion regarding Portal:Energy drinks at this time. – North America 1000 04:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Upon further consideration, Merge Portal:Energy drinks to Portal:Drink. North America 1000 10:48, 28 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all too narrow a scope for portals. Would not attract either wide reader or editor involvement. These topics are better handled in articles. The readers overwealmingly prefer the articles. Legacypac ( talk) 15:33, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - Redirects should be from article topics to article topics. The principle that redirects are cheap should not apply in portal space. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:53, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete with water, whether pure or flavored. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:53, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Agreed. Redirects in Portal space are clutter. Hard to manage them because they look like Duplicate portals on the lists. Unlike article redirects that are often used contextually in articles, portal redirects are almost never used for inbound internal links. Search does a much better job for a reader then for us to guess what a reader might type. Legacypac ( talk) 19:32, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Disagree. Redirects are functional to direct WP:READERS to content they are looking for. Making navigation easier for Wikipedia's readers is quite appropriate at times. North America 1000 23:32, 23 March 2019 (UTC) reply
That response does not address my point that redirects to portals are rarely used. Legacypac ( talk) 00:32, 24 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Merge and redirect to a broader portal on drinking water or on water in general, though probably the former (as a human society topic it's distinct from things like "how much water is in astronomical objects?", etc.). The drinking water just being in bottles isn't a distinct enough topic for a portal.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  16:35, 23 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Portal:Water. Legacypac ( talk) 18:01, 23 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Look at the absurdly off topic DYK selections in the restarted P:Beer Legacypac ( talk) 09:32, 28 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete – Too narrow of a scope. As for a redirect, I don't really understand the need (will people be searching for portal:bottled water?), but since I understand the unlinking has been a lot of work, perhaps it's just easier to turn it into a redirect. Leviv ich 05:06, 5 April 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the discussion was: Delete. Any "merging" can be made editorially by adding content where approriate. — xaosflux Talk 23:32, 7 April 2019 (UTC) reply

Portal:Bottled water

Portal:Bottled water ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Portal:Energy drinks ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
Portal:Soft drinks ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Way too narrow scope for these portals. CoolSkittle ( talk) 03:53, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Keep Portal:Soft drinks – Meets WP:POG, covers a broad subject area that includes global distribution and interest, and has plenty of potential for expansion, in part as per available content listed under Category:Soft drinks.
  • Redirect Portal:Bottled water to Portal:Water – I added some content to the Water portal to cover bottled water.
  • No opinion regarding Portal:Energy drinks at this time. – North America 1000 04:06, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Upon further consideration, Merge Portal:Energy drinks to Portal:Drink. North America 1000 10:48, 28 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete all too narrow a scope for portals. Would not attract either wide reader or editor involvement. These topics are better handled in articles. The readers overwealmingly prefer the articles. Legacypac ( talk) 15:33, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Comment - Redirects should be from article topics to article topics. The principle that redirects are cheap should not apply in portal space. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:53, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete with water, whether pure or flavored. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:53, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Agreed. Redirects in Portal space are clutter. Hard to manage them because they look like Duplicate portals on the lists. Unlike article redirects that are often used contextually in articles, portal redirects are almost never used for inbound internal links. Search does a much better job for a reader then for us to guess what a reader might type. Legacypac ( talk) 19:32, 21 March 2019 (UTC) reply
    Disagree. Redirects are functional to direct WP:READERS to content they are looking for. Making navigation easier for Wikipedia's readers is quite appropriate at times. North America 1000 23:32, 23 March 2019 (UTC) reply
That response does not address my point that redirects to portals are rarely used. Legacypac ( talk) 00:32, 24 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Merge and redirect to a broader portal on drinking water or on water in general, though probably the former (as a human society topic it's distinct from things like "how much water is in astronomical objects?", etc.). The drinking water just being in bottles isn't a distinct enough topic for a portal.  —  SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  16:35, 23 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Portal:Water. Legacypac ( talk) 18:01, 23 March 2019 (UTC) reply

Look at the absurdly off topic DYK selections in the restarted P:Beer Legacypac ( talk) 09:32, 28 March 2019 (UTC) reply
  • Delete – Too narrow of a scope. As for a redirect, I don't really understand the need (will people be searching for portal:bottled water?), but since I understand the unlinking has been a lot of work, perhaps it's just easier to turn it into a redirect. Leviv ich 05:06, 5 April 2019 (UTC) reply
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.



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