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The result of the discussion was: delete . Killiondude ( talk) 04:52, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Draft:Hydroelectric cell
Up for review again. This is WP:ADVOCACY in my view and should be removed. Legacypac ( talk) 17:47, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Redirectto National_Physical_Laboratory_of_India#Hydroelectric_cell. This is already in mainspace. — SmokeyJoe ( talk) 22:11, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Delete. Swindle. — SmokeyJoe ( talk) 20:46, 19 March 2018 (UTC)- Delete in its current form. The claim that the energy is coming from the water is just scientifically wrong. The energy is coming from 2 Zn + 2 H2O - > 2 Zn(OH)2 + H2, a reaction that isn't mentioned at all in the text, only in the equations.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 23:34, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
- I am not the least surprised that anyone with the knowledge and time to examine the material would find it wrong. I would prefer to see these things speedy redirected without consuming your time. Follow the link to mainspace and find a less obviously bad paragraph sourced to this. I don't have the energy at the moment, but here is my response. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 01:49, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - On further analysis, it is even worse than it sounds. I am inclined to think that the venture is a con game designed to sell to investors who don't understand that it is scientifically unsound. Robert McClenon ( talk) 04:09, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
"11:34, 2 January 2017 Iridescent (talk | contribs) deleted page Hydroelectric Cell (Expired PROD, concern was: This is just a zinc cell hyped up by press releases. There is no free energy.)" and User_talk:Archana_Gupta247 seems to be the creator. Legacypac ( talk) 06:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - Yes. As mentioned above, it's a zinc cell, and the energy released is the energy that was used to smelt the zinc. To say it is "hyped up by press releases" is an understatement; it's a swindle. There is a long history of frauds involving claims of marvelous sources of energy. In some cases, the inventor believes in them and is deluded. In some cases, the so-called inventor knows better. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Salt in both Draft space and Article space. (There might seem to be a scientific pun involved, but there isn't, because neither zinc nor zinc hydroxide is a salt.) This is likely to come back. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Salt as well. This has been running for a long time. He's not going toquit. Legacypac ( talk) 21:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: delete . Killiondude ( talk) 04:52, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Draft:Hydroelectric cell
Up for review again. This is WP:ADVOCACY in my view and should be removed. Legacypac ( talk) 17:47, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Redirectto National_Physical_Laboratory_of_India#Hydroelectric_cell. This is already in mainspace. — SmokeyJoe ( talk) 22:11, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Delete. Swindle. — SmokeyJoe ( talk) 20:46, 19 March 2018 (UTC)- Delete in its current form. The claim that the energy is coming from the water is just scientifically wrong. The energy is coming from 2 Zn + 2 H2O - > 2 Zn(OH)2 + H2, a reaction that isn't mentioned at all in the text, only in the equations.
Robert McClenon (
talk) 23:34, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
- I am not the least surprised that anyone with the knowledge and time to examine the material would find it wrong. I would prefer to see these things speedy redirected without consuming your time. Follow the link to mainspace and find a less obviously bad paragraph sourced to this. I don't have the energy at the moment, but here is my response. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 01:49, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - On further analysis, it is even worse than it sounds. I am inclined to think that the venture is a con game designed to sell to investors who don't understand that it is scientifically unsound. Robert McClenon ( talk) 04:09, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
"11:34, 2 January 2017 Iridescent (talk | contribs) deleted page Hydroelectric Cell (Expired PROD, concern was: This is just a zinc cell hyped up by press releases. There is no free energy.)" and User_talk:Archana_Gupta247 seems to be the creator. Legacypac ( talk) 06:27, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Comment - Yes. As mentioned above, it's a zinc cell, and the energy released is the energy that was used to smelt the zinc. To say it is "hyped up by press releases" is an understatement; it's a swindle. There is a long history of frauds involving claims of marvelous sources of energy. In some cases, the inventor believes in them and is deluded. In some cases, the so-called inventor knows better. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Salt in both Draft space and Article space. (There might seem to be a scientific pun involved, but there isn't, because neither zinc nor zinc hydroxide is a salt.) This is likely to come back. Robert McClenon ( talk) 18:23, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Salt as well. This has been running for a long time. He's not going toquit. Legacypac ( talk) 21:11, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.