- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) đ Chic dat Chicken Database 12:58, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Draft:Cooper Barnes ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
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Draft:Cooper Barnes (Actor)Â (
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- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Java Hurricane 12:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) North America 1000 09:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Draft on non-notable actor. Draft was submitted twice, declined first time, rejected second time because not improved after first submission. Draft is being repeatedly edited after rejection by IPs, and then those additions are being, properly, reverted. This will not be an article, but it will not go G13 because it is being (uselessly) edited. That could be prevented by semi-protection, but if any administrative action is taken, it might as well just be deletion. Robert McClenon ( talk) 04:16, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete â I'm one of the serious editors that actually looked for sourcing on Barnes, and the only sourcing on him are passing mentions. IOW, while he arguably passes
WP:NACTOR now, he comes nowhere near passing the far more important notability metric of
WP:BASIC. More alarmingly, this draft has now become a target for
SPI case Cadetrain, and so with that involvement not only is it unlikely that this draft will never be brought up to notability standards (or proper formating!), but it will further be used by Cadetrain to harass
WP:AfC and its volunteers.
WP:NUKEANDPAVE seems appropriate here.
 Note: It may become necessary, ultimately, to
WP:SALT
Draft:Cooper Barnes, as well as to permanently semi-protect the redirect at
Cooper Barnes because of Cadetrain. --
IJBall (
contribs â˘
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04:48, 25 June 2020 (UTC) - Strong keep Someone who passes NACTOR but does not pass BASIC might well do so in time, with additional coverage. Such a draft should certainly not be deleted just because of vandalism. Moreover, someone who passes NACTOR should usually be approved by AfC, not rejected, although I haven't reviews wed this in detail. I am tempted to review and consider approving. If improper edits from IPs are a problem, semi-protection is available. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 00:00, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 09:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 09:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy redirect to List of Henry Danger characters#Ray Manchester/Captain Man. Demand target talk page consensus for a spinout before drafting a spinout. Spinouts from lists are dubious. The draft four references are mere mentions of the subject. Does this subject really meet NACTOR? Itâs a clear GNG failure, there is no sourceable Secondary source content. â SmokeyJoe ( talk) 22:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Cooper Barnes already redirects to Henry Danger. AngusWOOF ( bark ⢠sniff) 18:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment - A copy of this draft has been created at Draft:Cooper Barnes (Actor). It is a rip-off of the original draft, evidenced even by the misspelling of the actor's nationality as 'Ameircan'. This is probably sockpuppetry, but the first thing to do obviously is to bundle this copy, which is an exact copy, into this MFD. Robert McClenon ( talk) 02:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - This draft should be kept and turned into an actual page because Cooper Barnes is notable enough to earn one is this guy (
M) is.--
Freewayman 2000 (
talk)
20:30, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note to Closer - Sockpuppet !vote. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per IJBall above, and SALT. Sundayclose ( talk) 20:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Java Hurricane 12:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Java Hurricane 12:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete and salt existing redirect: Needs another show besides the Danger series. Not enough external news sources as researched by IJBall. This may go the way of Olivia Rodrigo who didn't get a page until after she landed her second major series. AngusWOOF ( bark ⢠sniff) 18:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep it is in draft and can remain until such time as the article is moved to main space. We encourage editors to proceed as such. Lightburst ( talk) 16:37, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the miscellaneous page below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the discussion was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) đ Chic dat Chicken Database 12:58, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
- Draft:Cooper Barnes ( | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
-
Draft:Cooper Barnes (Actor)Â (
|
talk |
history |
links |
watch |
logs)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) Java Hurricane 12:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- (Time stamp for bot to properly relist.) North America 1000 09:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Draft on non-notable actor. Draft was submitted twice, declined first time, rejected second time because not improved after first submission. Draft is being repeatedly edited after rejection by IPs, and then those additions are being, properly, reverted. This will not be an article, but it will not go G13 because it is being (uselessly) edited. That could be prevented by semi-protection, but if any administrative action is taken, it might as well just be deletion. Robert McClenon ( talk) 04:16, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Delete â I'm one of the serious editors that actually looked for sourcing on Barnes, and the only sourcing on him are passing mentions. IOW, while he arguably passes
WP:NACTOR now, he comes nowhere near passing the far more important notability metric of
WP:BASIC. More alarmingly, this draft has now become a target for
SPI case Cadetrain, and so with that involvement not only is it unlikely that this draft will never be brought up to notability standards (or proper formating!), but it will further be used by Cadetrain to harass
WP:AfC and its volunteers.
WP:NUKEANDPAVE seems appropriate here.
 Note: It may become necessary, ultimately, to
WP:SALT
Draft:Cooper Barnes, as well as to permanently semi-protect the redirect at
Cooper Barnes because of Cadetrain. --
IJBall (
contribs â˘
talk)
04:48, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
- Strong keep Someone who passes NACTOR but does not pass BASIC might well do so in time, with additional coverage. Such a draft should certainly not be deleted just because of vandalism. Moreover, someone who passes NACTOR should usually be approved by AfC, not rejected, although I haven't reviews wed this in detail. I am tempted to review and consider approving. If improper edits from IPs are a problem, semi-protection is available. DES (talk) DESiegel Contribs 00:00, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 09:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America 1000 09:17, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy redirect to List of Henry Danger characters#Ray Manchester/Captain Man. Demand target talk page consensus for a spinout before drafting a spinout. Spinouts from lists are dubious. The draft four references are mere mentions of the subject. Does this subject really meet NACTOR? Itâs a clear GNG failure, there is no sourceable Secondary source content. â SmokeyJoe ( talk) 22:48, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- Cooper Barnes already redirects to Henry Danger. AngusWOOF ( bark ⢠sniff) 18:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment - A copy of this draft has been created at Draft:Cooper Barnes (Actor). It is a rip-off of the original draft, evidenced even by the misspelling of the actor's nationality as 'Ameircan'. This is probably sockpuppetry, but the first thing to do obviously is to bundle this copy, which is an exact copy, into this MFD. Robert McClenon ( talk) 02:02, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - This draft should be kept and turned into an actual page because Cooper Barnes is notable enough to earn one is this guy (
M) is.--
Freewayman 2000 (
talk)
20:30, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note to Closer - Sockpuppet !vote. Robert McClenon ( talk) 17:59, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per IJBall above, and SALT. Sundayclose ( talk) 20:55, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Java Hurricane 12:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Java Hurricane 12:15, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete and salt existing redirect: Needs another show besides the Danger series. Not enough external news sources as researched by IJBall. This may go the way of Olivia Rodrigo who didn't get a page until after she landed her second major series. AngusWOOF ( bark ⢠sniff) 18:42, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep it is in draft and can remain until such time as the article is moved to main space. We encourage editors to proceed as such. Lightburst ( talk) 16:37, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the page's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.