Wikipedia Mediation Cabal | |
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Article | Political Positions of John Edwards |
Status | closed |
Request date | Unknown |
Requesting party | Unknown |
Parties involved | Arnabdas, Blaxthos |
Mediator(s) | Doug ( talk · contribs) and MBisanz ( talk · contribs) |
Comment | One of the two parties declined mediation - case closed |
[[Category:Wikipedia Medcab closed cases| Political Positions of John Edwards]][[Category:Wikipedia medcab maintenance| Political Positions of John Edwards]]
Requesting opinions on whether or not responses to particular political positions of people should be addressed on their "political positions of" pages. Arnabdas ( talk) 18:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
User Arnabdas added in information about Senator John Edwards' support for partial birth abortion in his political positions page. User Arnabdas also proceeded to add in a criticism of Edwards that shows a possible contradiction in position. The position and the contradiction were removed by user Blaxthos, who proceeded to give user Arnabdas a warning on his talk page before discussing the issue. In a related incident, both user Arnabdas and Blaxthos apparantly agreed to allow criticism of particular positions in the Politics of Bill O'Reilly page (see that discussion page), yet Blaxthos apparantly disagrees to putting in criticism of Edwards' specific positions. Arnabdas ( talk) 18:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Would like to establish a uniform policy for all commentators and politicians with regards to their positions. Would like to have their positions, past and present, included as well as any criticism of his or her stance on the position itself (as opposed to criticism of the person or criticism of the policy in general). Arnabdas ( talk) 18:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Not prejudicing another mediator from intervening, but I'll note that the [{WP:MEDCAB]] process is:
Some general comments, Wikipedia doesn't do original research so only if another, outside, reliable source had commented on an action, could we even consider including it. Even then, other guidlines such as WP:BLP and undue weight, would control what criticisms if any are appropriate.
Also, as a matter of style (mine, not WP:MOS), articles should not read in an asked/answered format. Its not a good diea to have each action and then a criticism of each action. MBisanz talk 09:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so some users have declined to participate, no hard feelings, this just might not have been the right time or issue to mediate.. I'm closing this case and mentioning that the parties might consider alternatives such as WP:3O, WP:RFC, or appropriate wiki-projects. MBisanz talk 07:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
There are several prima facie problems with this request:
This action is, IMHO, both extremely premature and inappropriate. I would be glad to explain why Wikipedia is not the place for "responses to political positions" of presidential candidates, but this isn't the appropriate place to do so. Thanks. / Blaxthos ( t / c ) 18:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Each party should note acceptance of mediation and acceptance of the mediators below (although other mediators may join in at anytime - this is informal). Please watchlist this page as all discussions will occur here.
Wikipedia Mediation Cabal | |
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Article | Political Positions of John Edwards |
Status | closed |
Request date | Unknown |
Requesting party | Unknown |
Parties involved | Arnabdas, Blaxthos |
Mediator(s) | Doug ( talk · contribs) and MBisanz ( talk · contribs) |
Comment | One of the two parties declined mediation - case closed |
[[Category:Wikipedia Medcab closed cases| Political Positions of John Edwards]][[Category:Wikipedia medcab maintenance| Political Positions of John Edwards]]
Requesting opinions on whether or not responses to particular political positions of people should be addressed on their "political positions of" pages. Arnabdas ( talk) 18:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
User Arnabdas added in information about Senator John Edwards' support for partial birth abortion in his political positions page. User Arnabdas also proceeded to add in a criticism of Edwards that shows a possible contradiction in position. The position and the contradiction were removed by user Blaxthos, who proceeded to give user Arnabdas a warning on his talk page before discussing the issue. In a related incident, both user Arnabdas and Blaxthos apparantly agreed to allow criticism of particular positions in the Politics of Bill O'Reilly page (see that discussion page), yet Blaxthos apparantly disagrees to putting in criticism of Edwards' specific positions. Arnabdas ( talk) 18:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Would like to establish a uniform policy for all commentators and politicians with regards to their positions. Would like to have their positions, past and present, included as well as any criticism of his or her stance on the position itself (as opposed to criticism of the person or criticism of the policy in general). Arnabdas ( talk) 18:11, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Not prejudicing another mediator from intervening, but I'll note that the [{WP:MEDCAB]] process is:
Some general comments, Wikipedia doesn't do original research so only if another, outside, reliable source had commented on an action, could we even consider including it. Even then, other guidlines such as WP:BLP and undue weight, would control what criticisms if any are appropriate.
Also, as a matter of style (mine, not WP:MOS), articles should not read in an asked/answered format. Its not a good diea to have each action and then a criticism of each action. MBisanz talk 09:06, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok, so some users have declined to participate, no hard feelings, this just might not have been the right time or issue to mediate.. I'm closing this case and mentioning that the parties might consider alternatives such as WP:3O, WP:RFC, or appropriate wiki-projects. MBisanz talk 07:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
There are several prima facie problems with this request:
This action is, IMHO, both extremely premature and inappropriate. I would be glad to explain why Wikipedia is not the place for "responses to political positions" of presidential candidates, but this isn't the appropriate place to do so. Thanks. / Blaxthos ( t / c ) 18:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Each party should note acceptance of mediation and acceptance of the mediators below (although other mediators may join in at anytime - this is informal). Please watchlist this page as all discussions will occur here.