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Mediation Case: 2006-06-06 nostradamus

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Request Information

Request made by: Davkal 16:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply
Where is the issue taking place?
... Nostradamus talk page
Who's involved?
... Myslef and the two main authors PL and Jim
What's going on?
... I feel the article is in breach of NPOV rules
What would you like to change about that?
... I would like the article to conform to NPOV
If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?
...
Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?
This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do
what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.
... not at present

Mediator response

This was an argument over NPOV that degenerated due to lack of civility and failure to assume good faith. The argument was complicated by the fact that the requestor did not have the technical ability to write the requested material and could only argue that it needed to be written.

The issue was resolved when one of the requestor's opponents acknowledged the need for the requested material and wrote it, satisfying the requestor's concerns.

The parties involved, Davkal, PL, and •Jim62sch• are no longer in dispute.

Ideogram 18:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Evidence

Please report evidence in this section with {{ Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Evidence}} for misconduct and {{ Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Evidence3RR}} for 3RR violations. If you need help ask a mediator or an advocate. Evidence is of limited use in mediation as the mediator has no authority. Providing some evidence may, however, be useful in making both sides act more civil.
Wikipedia:Etiquette: Although it's understandably difficult in a heated argument, if the other party is not as civil as you'd like them to be, make sure to be more civil than him or her, not less.

Compromise offers

This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.

Comments by others

While using the talk page of the article in question to solve a dispute is encouraged to involve a larger audience, feel free to discuss the case below if that is not possible. Other mediators are also encouraged to join in on the discussion as Wikipedia is based on consensus.


Discussion

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Mediation Case: 2006-06-06 nostradamus

Please observe Wikipedia:Etiquette and Talk Page Etiquette in disputes. If you submit complaints or insults your edits are likely to be removed by the mediator, any other refactoring of the mediation case by anybody but the mediator is likely to be reverted. If you are not satisfied with the mediation procedure please submit your complaints to Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal.


Request Information

Request made by: Davkal 16:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC) reply
Where is the issue taking place?
... Nostradamus talk page
Who's involved?
... Myslef and the two main authors PL and Jim
What's going on?
... I feel the article is in breach of NPOV rules
What would you like to change about that?
... I would like the article to conform to NPOV
If you'd prefer we work discreetly, how can we reach you?
...
Would you be willing to be a mediator yourself, and accept a mediation assignment in a different case?
This is, following the Categorical Imperative, the idea that you might want to do
what you expect others to do. You don't have to, of course, that's why it's a question.
... not at present

Mediator response

This was an argument over NPOV that degenerated due to lack of civility and failure to assume good faith. The argument was complicated by the fact that the requestor did not have the technical ability to write the requested material and could only argue that it needed to be written.

The issue was resolved when one of the requestor's opponents acknowledged the need for the requested material and wrote it, satisfying the requestor's concerns.

The parties involved, Davkal, PL, and •Jim62sch• are no longer in dispute.

Ideogram 18:37, 13 June 2006 (UTC) reply

Evidence

Please report evidence in this section with {{ Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Evidence}} for misconduct and {{ Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal/Evidence3RR}} for 3RR violations. If you need help ask a mediator or an advocate. Evidence is of limited use in mediation as the mediator has no authority. Providing some evidence may, however, be useful in making both sides act more civil.
Wikipedia:Etiquette: Although it's understandably difficult in a heated argument, if the other party is not as civil as you'd like them to be, make sure to be more civil than him or her, not less.

Compromise offers

This section is for listing and discussing compromise offers.

Comments by others

While using the talk page of the article in question to solve a dispute is encouraged to involve a larger audience, feel free to discuss the case below if that is not possible. Other mediators are also encouraged to join in on the discussion as Wikipedia is based on consensus.


Discussion


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