It says that it's the albums cover but it doesn't look like one and if it was one, it would have her name and the name of the album.
CRocka0519:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)reply
DeleteImage appears to be, maybe an import cover? The album title and cover haven't been released, I say let's just wait a bit until it has officially been announced and the cover released.
Ejfetters07:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
UE fan-made poster (see use by fan of Batman Begins credits text, which wouldn't ordinarily be in a teaser poster anyways, as those usually give image, date, or season, and possibly title), being represented as actual official material on relevant movie page. Image has appeared on various movie-rumor sites, so uploader can't claim copyright as creator, and the title demonstrates that handily, in the double .jpg extensions.
ThuranX04:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)reply
The source given is indicating where the image was hosted when it was uploaded (i.e. the immediate source); it also hints that the original source was "Dino De Laurentiis Corp". The image at the immediate source
[2] appears to be a scanned article, with the
first image in the gallery indicating the article was in
Twilight Zone. Note that the article it is used on is a featured article.
John Vandenberg22:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)reply
But, as you state, it hints at the original source, we do not have an original source that it is from, therefore its copyright status cannot be verified and is unclear. As stated before, if this is replaceable with a screencap then it should be done so and tagged accordingly. Featured article status does not qualify the image for not adhering to image policies.
Ejfetters02:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
It is not imperative that we know the original source, although that would make things easier. It is more important to determine that it was used for promotional purposes. As this image was in a promotional article in a magazine, that may be sufficient; I am not 100% certain of the case law tho. wrt to being a featured article, it does mean that many eyes have seen this image already and deemed it ok. They may be wrong or may have not been paying attention, but it is important that we take care.
John Vandenberg02:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Also, I do believe it is important to have the original source, how else could we verify the copyright status? There are several images on fansites that are not allowed and not official, and we cannot cite the unofficial fansite as the image's source, the copyright status would be unclear if we did so.
Ejfetters04:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Please do not continue to claim it is from a fansite and suggest it shouldnt be trusted on that basis; I have made it quite clear the image is from a printed magazine. Why do you think it is inappropriate fair use to include images scanned from a printed magazine?
John Vandenberg04:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Please state the name of the magazine, the volume/issue, date released, so the copyright can be verified. I never claimed this was from a fansite, simply that you stated we don't need to verify original sources, original sources are the means of finding the original copyright, which is necessary. I don't understand why someone just can't upload a color screenshot which is not using the entire image (a screenshot is one frame of many in a film) and then the film can be sourced, and the copyright verified. This claims this image was released for promotional use, we simply don't have the proof that this image was released for promotional use.
Ejfetters06:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Not sure if this is sufficient, since its just a claim its from the magazine. I now rest my point and await an admin's decision, since all that can be said has pretty much been said.
Ejfetters08:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
This image was scanned from the article "TZ Screen Preview: Halloween III" in The Twilight Zone Magazine, November 1982 issue, p. 51. The image copyright is owned by Universal Pictures.
Dmoon120:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
I mentioned in the caption on the article page that the masks were featured in the magazine article. Detailed source info (including the copyright owner) was added to the image page yesterday.
Dmoon118:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)reply
It says that it's the albums cover but it doesn't look like one and if it was one, it would have her name and the name of the album.
CRocka0519:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)reply
DeleteImage appears to be, maybe an import cover? The album title and cover haven't been released, I say let's just wait a bit until it has officially been announced and the cover released.
Ejfetters07:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
UE fan-made poster (see use by fan of Batman Begins credits text, which wouldn't ordinarily be in a teaser poster anyways, as those usually give image, date, or season, and possibly title), being represented as actual official material on relevant movie page. Image has appeared on various movie-rumor sites, so uploader can't claim copyright as creator, and the title demonstrates that handily, in the double .jpg extensions.
ThuranX04:47, 8 September 2007 (UTC)reply
The source given is indicating where the image was hosted when it was uploaded (i.e. the immediate source); it also hints that the original source was "Dino De Laurentiis Corp". The image at the immediate source
[2] appears to be a scanned article, with the
first image in the gallery indicating the article was in
Twilight Zone. Note that the article it is used on is a featured article.
John Vandenberg22:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)reply
But, as you state, it hints at the original source, we do not have an original source that it is from, therefore its copyright status cannot be verified and is unclear. As stated before, if this is replaceable with a screencap then it should be done so and tagged accordingly. Featured article status does not qualify the image for not adhering to image policies.
Ejfetters02:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
It is not imperative that we know the original source, although that would make things easier. It is more important to determine that it was used for promotional purposes. As this image was in a promotional article in a magazine, that may be sufficient; I am not 100% certain of the case law tho. wrt to being a featured article, it does mean that many eyes have seen this image already and deemed it ok. They may be wrong or may have not been paying attention, but it is important that we take care.
John Vandenberg02:28, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Also, I do believe it is important to have the original source, how else could we verify the copyright status? There are several images on fansites that are not allowed and not official, and we cannot cite the unofficial fansite as the image's source, the copyright status would be unclear if we did so.
Ejfetters04:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Please do not continue to claim it is from a fansite and suggest it shouldnt be trusted on that basis; I have made it quite clear the image is from a printed magazine. Why do you think it is inappropriate fair use to include images scanned from a printed magazine?
John Vandenberg04:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Please state the name of the magazine, the volume/issue, date released, so the copyright can be verified. I never claimed this was from a fansite, simply that you stated we don't need to verify original sources, original sources are the means of finding the original copyright, which is necessary. I don't understand why someone just can't upload a color screenshot which is not using the entire image (a screenshot is one frame of many in a film) and then the film can be sourced, and the copyright verified. This claims this image was released for promotional use, we simply don't have the proof that this image was released for promotional use.
Ejfetters06:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
Not sure if this is sufficient, since its just a claim its from the magazine. I now rest my point and await an admin's decision, since all that can be said has pretty much been said.
Ejfetters08:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
This image was scanned from the article "TZ Screen Preview: Halloween III" in The Twilight Zone Magazine, November 1982 issue, p. 51. The image copyright is owned by Universal Pictures.
Dmoon120:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)reply
I mentioned in the caption on the article page that the masks were featured in the magazine article. Detailed source info (including the copyright owner) was added to the image page yesterday.
Dmoon118:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)reply