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- Unnecessary non-free image showing a Pontiff examining a book, to illustrate the information that he visited the U.S.. It doesn't seem to add any noteworthy information that isn't already conveyed with text.
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- Incorrect nomination. This is a picture of Pacelli while cardinal secretary of state to
Pope Pius XI, not a picture from during his pontificate. This is one of the few available images from Pacelli's important trip to the U.S. There is obviously no free equivalent of him examining the Gutenberg bible, or even visiting the famous institution that houses it. His visits to so-called Catholic artifacts are an important part of his trip, and how he interacted with them is something that cannot be communicated in the article text.
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Savidan, you seem to misunderstand our
policy on non-free content. Replaceability is just one of the 10 criteria. And anyway, an irrepĺaceable image is not one for which there's no equal image under a free license. If an image can be replaced by a completely different one but with the same encyclopedic value, then it's considered replaceable. Even more, if a non-free image can be replaced by a piece of freely licensed text with the same encyclopedic value, then it's still replaceable.
- We don't need a free image of Cardinal Pacelli "examining the Gutenberg bible" to replace this one. As this image is only being used to illustrate a discussion about this Cardinal's visit to the U.S., it can be replaced by free text. Indeed, it already is. There's no encyclopedic information in this image that isn't already conveyed with text in the article. --
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- There was a rationale, and I have augmented it. I don't ask you to take my word for it that this is an iconic image of Pius XII which is undoubtedly tied to the legacy of his papacy. Jose Sanchez, in Pius XII and the Holocaust calls this image, along with
Image:Piusxiib.jpg, one of "the two ubiquitous photographs of Pius" which "seemed to capture the papacy at an eternal moment" (p. 1).
- As I said, such determinations should be a question of literature, not personal opinions.
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- An iconic image is one the received awards, created some controversy, was influential in some way... i.e., the image itself was commented about in a lot of places, and not simply used in a lot of places. --
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- Unnecessary non-free image showing a Pontif handing some packages to some people. It doesn't seem to add any noteworthy information that isn't already conveyed with text.
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- Incorrect nomination. The picture is of Pacelli before he was elected pope. It is the only known photo of him during WWI. This picture conveys a lot of information that is impossible to convey is plaintext. The awkwardness or at-ease-ness of Pacelli while handing out packages to WWI prisoners, the role of his religious costume, the people standing behind him, etc. ... these are impossible to write, these can only be shown through this one-of-a-kind historical image.
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- Image license claims to be a screenshot of public-domain software. However, the image actually appears to be the one here:
[4], and there is no indication that the photo is GFDL or public-domain, nor that it even is a software screenshot. The site's general terms of use
[5] forbids commercial use and derivative works, making the image unfree. This being the case, the image is of a living person, and so could not be used under fair-use as it is replaceable. —
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- The uploader deleted the image himself, after leaving a (not very educated)
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- Tagged as a CD cover, but it doesn't look like one. It's used in an article about a tour. Is this merely decorative? Is the source (Marketing of SPR / Def Jam Records) sufficient? –
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- this doesn't show anything that can't be written in the article, invalid fair use
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- Keep, it is the screenshot of an "attack ad" alleging that a federal candidate "doesn't support rape victims", the ad was specifically designed to trigger gut reactions to its colouring, wording, use of bold font and similar "scare tactics" - something that simply saying "there were ads on television" doesn't really capture.
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- Delete. In theory, Sherurcij's arguments make sense. But this ad is just text, plus a rather neutral photo. –
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- Keep. Ability to assess the form and impactfulness of the design adds to the reader's understanding.
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Deleted. Jheald would have a point if the article in fact had mentioned the form and design and whatnot.
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- I'm sorry, but I think this image is important to fully show how the Canadian Liberals made a campaign issue out of Day's past comments in the
2000 election, which is not understood so fully just from text. The attack ads that this illustration encapsulates are the story here, in an election where "few if any" other important issues were raised. Note also the legal fair use case here (which does influence Wikipedia's policy balance, though it is only part of the story) is particularly strong here, because of the minimal market value of the work now and the recognised specific public value of informing debate on political affairs. For all these reasons, this should be reopened. Furthermore, it was premature to make this one of the first tickets on this page to be closed, when it was still the subject of active discussion.
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- Reopened by request. Per my earlier closing comments, I say delete. This is a typical political attack ad, not unlike the hundred million others aired during election season, so I don't see how this really imparts any information that isn't already conveyed in the article. Furthermore, the text in the ad (which is barely readable in the image) could be quoted in the article if in fact there is an intention to highlight the tactics his opponents used.
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- You don't need an image of Vladimar Putin in this article, it shows nothing beyond identification of the subject
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- Keep, one of a number of nominations by
Bleh999 showcasing his attempts to delete a large number of fair use images related to international terrorism, though improper rationale and flawed reasoning. This is not just "an image of Putin" as he claims, it is an image of Putin on state-controlled television (so no commercial loss) addressing the nation after 300 people were killed in the most notable terrorist attack in Asia in the past decade. (Beslan school hostagetaking).
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- I suggest you tone down your personal attacks and review the policy
WP:NPA, I nominate images to review or dispute their fair use, and not just terrorism related articles, and I don't care for your baseless accusations. Maybe you should read the wikipedia fair use policy
WP:NFC, this image fails #1 #2 #3 #8 , no free equivalent for a living subject. why do we need a photograph of Vladimir Putin behind the state flag, it doesn't add anything that any image of Vladimir Putin would. Russian media certainly do have commercial interests and we respect them as we do CNN, NBC or Fox news.
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- We already have a selection of free images of Vladimir Putin on
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Vladimir_Putin
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- Delete, utterly replaceable. –
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- I'd argue that a "random image of Putin" is not a suitable replacement for Putin on national television addressing the nation after a massive terrorist attack.
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- It does satisfy "fair use law", legally, in the U.S. It does not satisfy our non-free content criteria. –
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