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When I am working Articles for Creation, I commonly try to move a page from a sandbox into draft space, the preferred place for AFC submissions. Sometimes I get an error message stating that the move cannot be done because the title is on the Title Blacklist. I have now come to the conclusion that this error message is basically wrong. My initial assumption after the first two or so times that this happened was that the title might have been salted or in some similar way blacklisted. In those cases, I was told by admins that the title was not salted. Okay. I have since seen that the "title blacklist" displays cod e that contains regular expressions. That, in itself, is to my mind reason enough why referring to it as a "blacklist" is wrong, not just confusing, which it is, but wrong. (A salted title really is blacklisted.) What I have since observed is that every time that I have encountered this error, the real problem is that the title, as given by the author either at the beginning or at the end of the article, was in block UPPER CASE. There appears to be a rule that is being enforced that prevents creation (including by move) of a title that contains too many upper case letters. If so, the preferred error handling would be to say that the title is not permitted because it is in upper case only. (I agree that titles in all upper case are obnoxious and can reasonably be prevented. But it is confusing and annoying to call it a blacklist.) A satisfactory error handling would be simply to say that the title is not permitted because it violates the title rules, and to then provide the ability to link to a page listing the title rules in ordinary English (not just in regexps). It isn't a title blacklist. It is a set of rules against having titles violate certain rules. Is there a specific way that I should report this "error error", that is, an error message that is sufficiently wrong as to be an error itself? Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:30, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
errmsg
does let you specify an arbitary page in the MediaWiki namespace. If no errmsg
is specified for the regex rule you break then one of the built-in pages listed at top of
MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist is displayed. Which one depends on the type of action (page creation, move, account creation, upload) you were trying. The default Mediawiki messages like
MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-forbidden-edit/qqx display the regex line which is passed as $1 and includes any comment on the line. Our customized versions like
MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-forbidden-edit don't display the line. I don't know whether this has been discussed but a reason can be that showing the regex line can make it too easy for vandals and spammers to get around the blacklist. The regex rule against too many capital letters only applies to moves and not page creations. "blacklist" is the term used by MediaWiki itself so I think we should keep it. 01:31, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
PrimeHunter (
talk)
Not sure where the best place to post this is, but at Portal:History some wiki formatting text pops out, ie [[|100x100px|]]
... that the anti-religious campaign culminating in the Stalinist [[|100x100px|]] show trial of the Kraków Curia (pictured) led to the imprisonment of 123 Polish Roman Catholic priests in just one year? ... that Confederate brigadier general Alfred E. Jackson was pardoned by President Andrew Johnson because of his kindness toward Johnson's family during the Civil War? ... that after HMS Porcupine was nearly split in two by a torpedo, the halves were nicknamed HMS Pork and HMS Pine?
FYI to those who may be able to investigate/fix. Regards. – 72.234.220.38 ( talk) 05:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Tomás Mac Curtain ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This man was part of the Irish Rising, Lord Mayor of Cork. I have an autograph book from READING JAIL December 1916 where my relative was interred at the same time as TOMAS MACCURTAIN Mr MACCURTAIN signed it and it is currently on exhibit in Glasgow Mitchell Library. Your entry reports that TOMAS MACCURTAIN was interred in FROGNOCH in WALES. Well unless he was there during 1916 and removed to READING JAIL later. I suspect your detail wrong. My Relative was Seamus Reader commander of the Scottish Brigade Irish Volunteers 1916-1921
Sincerely Eddi Reader (singer songwriter) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.1.55.75 ( talk) 13:26, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Dear editors: Here's a draft article: Draft:Gregory Sullivan Isaacs which claims that the subject has been nominated for various awards. Outside of material published by related organizations, I can't find any corroborating evidence of the awards. Should the article be moved to mainspace based on these claims even though they are not supported? I have recently been reminded that notability is based on claims, not references. And is there a spot where Pulitzer Prize for drama nominations are listed that I could check?— Anne Delong ( talk) 15:20, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I was in the wiki for all states with LEGAL -MEDICAL marijuana. I live in WA state so I know this is true but don't have reference point. But the wiki was wrong, listing x states being the only ones with dispensaries. I've had my MMJ card for 3 years (I'm dying) and not only are there dispensaries but quite a few do deliveries for people like me. This is not recreational, and for people like me to sick for opiods this is a serious matter. I'd just like someone to look it over. Since I have no clue how to fix and/or where to come up with the references. Thanks, Daisy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.155.57 ( talk) 17:23, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Good day to all!
For personal use need to make an index of all page names.
I hope that you will help me, and I do not have to manually copy the names of titles of all articles, because it will take 1000+ times of Cntl C - Cntrl V from /info/en/?search=Portal:Contents/A-Z_index
95.55.134.163 ( talk) 19:35, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
desmond — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.182.206.82 ( talk) 19:54, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Unanimous A.I. ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hi there, I recently revised the Unanimous A.I. page to clear up flags. Spoke to someone last week that language was too promotional. Link to page: /info/en/?search=Unanimous_A.I.
Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgonzalez512 ( talk • contribs) 19:56, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
External links in article "Ibrahim B. Syed" have problems - one is dead, other "Temporarily Unavailable"
His organization at http://www.irfi.org/about_irfi.htm maybe should have a Wikipedia page. FurnaldHall ( talk) 20:24, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I have an issue with a certain source, History of the Incas by Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa, in that put forth information that is at contradictory to most of the other sources used in articles it's cited in, but also puts forth wild claims that are frankly unlikely at best, and impossible at worst.
A good example of the first is on the Huayna Capac article, where the other sources say that Huayna Capac was botn in 1468 and died in 1533, having reigned from 1493-1527; however, the article also states that Huayna Capac "lived for 80 years and reigned for 60", citing de Gamboa's book as the source.
A more egregious infraction could be found on the Sinchi Roca article (though I removed it several months ago) stating as fact that Sinchi Roca died in 675 A.D., despite having ruled a kingdom that was founded in the 1100 at earliest estimates, and saying that he lived to 127 years old (an astounding feat for someone in such a primitive culture).
The thing is, I am not knowledgeable enough to speak on Incan culture/history, and am not qualified to say that de Gambino's work should just be discarded and scrubbed from what could possibly be dozens of articles. How would I go about getting the eyes of actual experts in the field onto these pages? 142.105.159.60 ( talk) 22:06, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
hello my name is sanjeev puktar i am looking for work because i need to find job. i can edit and create document for wikipedia foundation and i can create article for decent wage. will employ me?
- how much for each article? - how much for each edit?
when will i get paid? how to get paid? cash.. cheque is good. -- Sajeevpuktar1988 ( talk) 22:28, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
-- Sajeevpuktar1988 ( talk) 22:30, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I have noticed that many of the older refs. on this page (numbers 10, 18, 19, 20 and 21) are incorrectly done. are you able to check and then fix? thanks in advance. Srbernadette ( talk) 23:38, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
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When I am working Articles for Creation, I commonly try to move a page from a sandbox into draft space, the preferred place for AFC submissions. Sometimes I get an error message stating that the move cannot be done because the title is on the Title Blacklist. I have now come to the conclusion that this error message is basically wrong. My initial assumption after the first two or so times that this happened was that the title might have been salted or in some similar way blacklisted. In those cases, I was told by admins that the title was not salted. Okay. I have since seen that the "title blacklist" displays cod e that contains regular expressions. That, in itself, is to my mind reason enough why referring to it as a "blacklist" is wrong, not just confusing, which it is, but wrong. (A salted title really is blacklisted.) What I have since observed is that every time that I have encountered this error, the real problem is that the title, as given by the author either at the beginning or at the end of the article, was in block UPPER CASE. There appears to be a rule that is being enforced that prevents creation (including by move) of a title that contains too many upper case letters. If so, the preferred error handling would be to say that the title is not permitted because it is in upper case only. (I agree that titles in all upper case are obnoxious and can reasonably be prevented. But it is confusing and annoying to call it a blacklist.) A satisfactory error handling would be simply to say that the title is not permitted because it violates the title rules, and to then provide the ability to link to a page listing the title rules in ordinary English (not just in regexps). It isn't a title blacklist. It is a set of rules against having titles violate certain rules. Is there a specific way that I should report this "error error", that is, an error message that is sufficiently wrong as to be an error itself? Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:30, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
errmsg
does let you specify an arbitary page in the MediaWiki namespace. If no errmsg
is specified for the regex rule you break then one of the built-in pages listed at top of
MediaWiki talk:Titleblacklist is displayed. Which one depends on the type of action (page creation, move, account creation, upload) you were trying. The default Mediawiki messages like
MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-forbidden-edit/qqx display the regex line which is passed as $1 and includes any comment on the line. Our customized versions like
MediaWiki:Titleblacklist-forbidden-edit don't display the line. I don't know whether this has been discussed but a reason can be that showing the regex line can make it too easy for vandals and spammers to get around the blacklist. The regex rule against too many capital letters only applies to moves and not page creations. "blacklist" is the term used by MediaWiki itself so I think we should keep it. 01:31, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
PrimeHunter (
talk)
Not sure where the best place to post this is, but at Portal:History some wiki formatting text pops out, ie [[|100x100px|]]
... that the anti-religious campaign culminating in the Stalinist [[|100x100px|]] show trial of the Kraków Curia (pictured) led to the imprisonment of 123 Polish Roman Catholic priests in just one year? ... that Confederate brigadier general Alfred E. Jackson was pardoned by President Andrew Johnson because of his kindness toward Johnson's family during the Civil War? ... that after HMS Porcupine was nearly split in two by a torpedo, the halves were nicknamed HMS Pork and HMS Pine?
FYI to those who may be able to investigate/fix. Regards. – 72.234.220.38 ( talk) 05:05, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Tomás Mac Curtain ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
This man was part of the Irish Rising, Lord Mayor of Cork. I have an autograph book from READING JAIL December 1916 where my relative was interred at the same time as TOMAS MACCURTAIN Mr MACCURTAIN signed it and it is currently on exhibit in Glasgow Mitchell Library. Your entry reports that TOMAS MACCURTAIN was interred in FROGNOCH in WALES. Well unless he was there during 1916 and removed to READING JAIL later. I suspect your detail wrong. My Relative was Seamus Reader commander of the Scottish Brigade Irish Volunteers 1916-1921
Sincerely Eddi Reader (singer songwriter) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.1.55.75 ( talk) 13:26, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Dear editors: Here's a draft article: Draft:Gregory Sullivan Isaacs which claims that the subject has been nominated for various awards. Outside of material published by related organizations, I can't find any corroborating evidence of the awards. Should the article be moved to mainspace based on these claims even though they are not supported? I have recently been reminded that notability is based on claims, not references. And is there a spot where Pulitzer Prize for drama nominations are listed that I could check?— Anne Delong ( talk) 15:20, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I was in the wiki for all states with LEGAL -MEDICAL marijuana. I live in WA state so I know this is true but don't have reference point. But the wiki was wrong, listing x states being the only ones with dispensaries. I've had my MMJ card for 3 years (I'm dying) and not only are there dispensaries but quite a few do deliveries for people like me. This is not recreational, and for people like me to sick for opiods this is a serious matter. I'd just like someone to look it over. Since I have no clue how to fix and/or where to come up with the references. Thanks, Daisy — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.155.57 ( talk) 17:23, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Good day to all!
For personal use need to make an index of all page names.
I hope that you will help me, and I do not have to manually copy the names of titles of all articles, because it will take 1000+ times of Cntl C - Cntrl V from /info/en/?search=Portal:Contents/A-Z_index
95.55.134.163 ( talk) 19:35, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
desmond — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.182.206.82 ( talk) 19:54, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Unanimous A.I. ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
Hi there, I recently revised the Unanimous A.I. page to clear up flags. Spoke to someone last week that language was too promotional. Link to page: /info/en/?search=Unanimous_A.I.
Thanks in advance! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bgonzalez512 ( talk • contribs) 19:56, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
External links in article "Ibrahim B. Syed" have problems - one is dead, other "Temporarily Unavailable"
His organization at http://www.irfi.org/about_irfi.htm maybe should have a Wikipedia page. FurnaldHall ( talk) 20:24, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I have an issue with a certain source, History of the Incas by Pedro Sarmiento de Gamboa, in that put forth information that is at contradictory to most of the other sources used in articles it's cited in, but also puts forth wild claims that are frankly unlikely at best, and impossible at worst.
A good example of the first is on the Huayna Capac article, where the other sources say that Huayna Capac was botn in 1468 and died in 1533, having reigned from 1493-1527; however, the article also states that Huayna Capac "lived for 80 years and reigned for 60", citing de Gamboa's book as the source.
A more egregious infraction could be found on the Sinchi Roca article (though I removed it several months ago) stating as fact that Sinchi Roca died in 675 A.D., despite having ruled a kingdom that was founded in the 1100 at earliest estimates, and saying that he lived to 127 years old (an astounding feat for someone in such a primitive culture).
The thing is, I am not knowledgeable enough to speak on Incan culture/history, and am not qualified to say that de Gambino's work should just be discarded and scrubbed from what could possibly be dozens of articles. How would I go about getting the eyes of actual experts in the field onto these pages? 142.105.159.60 ( talk) 22:06, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
hello my name is sanjeev puktar i am looking for work because i need to find job. i can edit and create document for wikipedia foundation and i can create article for decent wage. will employ me?
- how much for each article? - how much for each edit?
when will i get paid? how to get paid? cash.. cheque is good. -- Sajeevpuktar1988 ( talk) 22:28, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
-- Sajeevpuktar1988 ( talk) 22:30, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
I have noticed that many of the older refs. on this page (numbers 10, 18, 19, 20 and 21) are incorrectly done. are you able to check and then fix? thanks in advance. Srbernadette ( talk) 23:38, 26 May 2016 (UTC)