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Article(s):
Italian invasion of France (possibly the
Alpine Line and
List of Alpine Line ouvrages articles)
Request: Hi, I am hoping that someone would be able to create a map to be used in the above article to illustrate the French defensive positions and certain key towns and villages associated with the invasion. At present there is no map to support the article, and the creation of such would vastly benefit the article and help the reader pinpoint the various locations mentioned in the text.
I only have access to an e-copy of the below source and the low-res map contained on 174. I have uploaded several copies, including a zoomed in version (if it helps any), and one clearly marking the various French positions as highlighted in the accompanying key. If possible, could the map show the elevations (not clearly shown on the map), the 27 French defensive areas (per the key and highlighted), as well as the following key towns and villages: Briançon, Montgenèvre (not shown on the map, but located just to the east of Briançon), and Menton. If possible, could the Italian and French divisions also be included to show the general disposition of both sides?
I have been unable to find any additional maps showing the French defensive positions, but would be willing to provide any other assistance as needed. Regards -- EnigmaMcmxc ( talk) 23:32, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Source: Kaufmann, J.E; Kaufmann, H.W (2007). Fortress France: The Maginot Line and French Defenses in World War II. Stackpole Military History Series. Stackpole Books.
ISBN
978-0-811-73395-3. {{
cite book}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
(
help); Unknown parameter |lastauthoramp=
ignored (|name-list-style=
suggested) (
help) (Map is attributed to Joseph Kaufmann)
Caption that accompanies the map, on page 175: "Figure 6-6. Alpine front and Maginot ouvrages. This map shows the location of French and Italian units in the 1940 and also identifies all French ouvrages of the Little Maginot of the Alps."
Uploaded images:
Graphist opinion(s):
I have made two DRAFTS now that I want you to look at and give me feedback on. Both of them are just a raw draft, remember that as I want to know which you want before I put in to much work. Everything that is important will be more visible in the final map. Both of them are very heavy to load but that is just because both versions are in the same file for now.
So get back to me as I can't continue without your feedback, thanks. -- Goran tek-en ( talk) 20:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again. I will get back to you later or tomorrow with feedback. I have also requested a second set of eyes from @ Srnec:, who is also active on this article. EnigmaMcmxc ( talk) 13:52, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Fortified Sector of Savoy (La Tarentaise)
1 - Ouvrage Chatelard and Ouvrage Cave Canon
Fortified Sector of Savoy (La Maurienne)
2 - Ouvrage Sapey 3 - Ouvrage Saint Gobain 4 - Ouvrage Saint Antoine 5 - Ouvrage Le Lavoir 6 - Ouvrage Pas du Roc, Ouvrage Arrondaz, and Ouvrage Les Rochilles
Fortified Sector of Dauphiné
7 - Ouvrage Janus, Ouvrage Col de Buffere, Ouvrage Col du Granon, and Ouvrage Les Aittes 8 - Ouvrage Gondran 9 - Ouvrage Roche Lacroix 10 - Ouvrage Saint Ours Haut and Ouvrage Plate Lombard 11 - Ouvrage Fontvive Nord-ouest, Ouvrage Saint Ours Nord-est, Ouvrage Saint Ours Bas, Ouvrage Ancien Camp 12 - Ouvrage Restefond, Ouvrage Col de Restefond, Ouvrage Granges Communes, Ouvrage La Moutiere
Fortified Sector of the Maritime Alps
14 - Ouvrage Col de Crous, Ouvrage Rimplas, Ouvrage Fressinen, Ouvrage Valdeblore, Ouvrage La Serena, Ouvrage Col du Caire Gros, and Ouvrage Col du Fort 15 - Ouvrage Gordolon 16 - Ouvrage Flaut 17 - Ouvrage Baisse de Saint Veran, Ouvrage Plan Caval, Ouvrage La Beole, Ouvrage Col Agnon, Ouvrage La Dea 18 - Ouvrage Col de Brouis 19 - Ouvrage Monte Grosso, and Ouvrage Champ de Tir 20 - Ouvrage L'Agaisen 21 - Ouvrage Saint Roch 22 - Ouvrage Barbonnet 23 - Ouvrage Castillon, and Ouvrage Col des Banquettes 24 - Ouvrage Sainte Agnes and Ouvrage Col des Gardes 25 - Ouvrage Mont Agel 26 - Ouvrage Roquebrunne, and Ouvrage Croupe du Reservoir 27 - Ouvrage Cap Martin
@
EnigmaMcmxc: Thanks for your great information but you didn't have to link each one. I just wanted to understand what the numbers were and if they should be a part of the map. I don't put all that info into the legend, I think it's better in the article or mapinfo at commons.
One problem with the forts around Menton is that my dots are larger and takes up more space but I think they have to be that big to be visible. I have tried to rearrange them and changed the rest also. Look
at this updated draft and give me feedback, thanks. --
Goran tek-en (
talk) 10:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
@ EnigmaMcmxc: Now you can find it here Alpine Line 10 June 1940 -- Goran tek-en ( talk) 17:22, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Done
I feel that I am asking of this too often, but I only need one more map for the time being! I'm not sure if its necessary for a GA status, but I think it would help.
The link is below. Thanks in advance, and again, I hope I'm not a bother! LeftAire ( talk) 00:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Toxostoma longirostre range map
Graphist opinion(s):
This page is an archive. Do not edit the contents of this page. Please direct any additional comments to the current main page. |
Article(s):
Italian invasion of France (possibly the
Alpine Line and
List of Alpine Line ouvrages articles)
Request: Hi, I am hoping that someone would be able to create a map to be used in the above article to illustrate the French defensive positions and certain key towns and villages associated with the invasion. At present there is no map to support the article, and the creation of such would vastly benefit the article and help the reader pinpoint the various locations mentioned in the text.
I only have access to an e-copy of the below source and the low-res map contained on 174. I have uploaded several copies, including a zoomed in version (if it helps any), and one clearly marking the various French positions as highlighted in the accompanying key. If possible, could the map show the elevations (not clearly shown on the map), the 27 French defensive areas (per the key and highlighted), as well as the following key towns and villages: Briançon, Montgenèvre (not shown on the map, but located just to the east of Briançon), and Menton. If possible, could the Italian and French divisions also be included to show the general disposition of both sides?
I have been unable to find any additional maps showing the French defensive positions, but would be willing to provide any other assistance as needed. Regards -- EnigmaMcmxc ( talk) 23:32, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
Source: Kaufmann, J.E; Kaufmann, H.W (2007). Fortress France: The Maginot Line and French Defenses in World War II. Stackpole Military History Series. Stackpole Books.
ISBN
978-0-811-73395-3. {{
cite book}}
: Invalid |ref=harv
(
help); Unknown parameter |lastauthoramp=
ignored (|name-list-style=
suggested) (
help) (Map is attributed to Joseph Kaufmann)
Caption that accompanies the map, on page 175: "Figure 6-6. Alpine front and Maginot ouvrages. This map shows the location of French and Italian units in the 1940 and also identifies all French ouvrages of the Little Maginot of the Alps."
Uploaded images:
Graphist opinion(s):
I have made two DRAFTS now that I want you to look at and give me feedback on. Both of them are just a raw draft, remember that as I want to know which you want before I put in to much work. Everything that is important will be more visible in the final map. Both of them are very heavy to load but that is just because both versions are in the same file for now.
So get back to me as I can't continue without your feedback, thanks. -- Goran tek-en ( talk) 20:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Thanks again. I will get back to you later or tomorrow with feedback. I have also requested a second set of eyes from @ Srnec:, who is also active on this article. EnigmaMcmxc ( talk) 13:52, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
Fortified Sector of Savoy (La Tarentaise)
1 - Ouvrage Chatelard and Ouvrage Cave Canon
Fortified Sector of Savoy (La Maurienne)
2 - Ouvrage Sapey 3 - Ouvrage Saint Gobain 4 - Ouvrage Saint Antoine 5 - Ouvrage Le Lavoir 6 - Ouvrage Pas du Roc, Ouvrage Arrondaz, and Ouvrage Les Rochilles
Fortified Sector of Dauphiné
7 - Ouvrage Janus, Ouvrage Col de Buffere, Ouvrage Col du Granon, and Ouvrage Les Aittes 8 - Ouvrage Gondran 9 - Ouvrage Roche Lacroix 10 - Ouvrage Saint Ours Haut and Ouvrage Plate Lombard 11 - Ouvrage Fontvive Nord-ouest, Ouvrage Saint Ours Nord-est, Ouvrage Saint Ours Bas, Ouvrage Ancien Camp 12 - Ouvrage Restefond, Ouvrage Col de Restefond, Ouvrage Granges Communes, Ouvrage La Moutiere
Fortified Sector of the Maritime Alps
14 - Ouvrage Col de Crous, Ouvrage Rimplas, Ouvrage Fressinen, Ouvrage Valdeblore, Ouvrage La Serena, Ouvrage Col du Caire Gros, and Ouvrage Col du Fort 15 - Ouvrage Gordolon 16 - Ouvrage Flaut 17 - Ouvrage Baisse de Saint Veran, Ouvrage Plan Caval, Ouvrage La Beole, Ouvrage Col Agnon, Ouvrage La Dea 18 - Ouvrage Col de Brouis 19 - Ouvrage Monte Grosso, and Ouvrage Champ de Tir 20 - Ouvrage L'Agaisen 21 - Ouvrage Saint Roch 22 - Ouvrage Barbonnet 23 - Ouvrage Castillon, and Ouvrage Col des Banquettes 24 - Ouvrage Sainte Agnes and Ouvrage Col des Gardes 25 - Ouvrage Mont Agel 26 - Ouvrage Roquebrunne, and Ouvrage Croupe du Reservoir 27 - Ouvrage Cap Martin
@
EnigmaMcmxc: Thanks for your great information but you didn't have to link each one. I just wanted to understand what the numbers were and if they should be a part of the map. I don't put all that info into the legend, I think it's better in the article or mapinfo at commons.
One problem with the forts around Menton is that my dots are larger and takes up more space but I think they have to be that big to be visible. I have tried to rearrange them and changed the rest also. Look
at this updated draft and give me feedback, thanks. --
Goran tek-en (
talk) 10:34, 6 February 2015 (UTC)
@ EnigmaMcmxc: Now you can find it here Alpine Line 10 June 1940 -- Goran tek-en ( talk) 17:22, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
Done
I feel that I am asking of this too often, but I only need one more map for the time being! I'm not sure if its necessary for a GA status, but I think it would help.
The link is below. Thanks in advance, and again, I hope I'm not a bother! LeftAire ( talk) 00:18, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
Toxostoma longirostre range map
Graphist opinion(s):