Edit warring due to WP:RETAIN. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 15:19, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Edit warring on an article means that the article is not stable, so it by definition does not meet WP:GACR. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 09:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
"Use this process if you find an article listed as a good article which does not satisfy the good article criteria." What part of that is hard to understand? This is a GA article which is undergoing edit warring with multiple editors other than myself. Cwmhiraeth, as an editor involved in creating this mess, I see your comment as being wrong to me. In fact I see a cabal of GA editors changing the spelling of an article per their non-neutral personal preference as being wrong to me. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 12:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
As the discussion has been started here, I think that it can be continued here. This GAR could be one of the features of a dispute over language varation, but I am not entirely certain. If this is a dispute, then the tie breaker rules would apply. The guidelines are prescriptive when there is a dispute about language localisation. If there is a dispute here, then the guidelines can be applied, and I think that the most relevant issue would be WP:RETAIN and in particular; "When no English variety has been established and discussion cannot resolve the issue, the variety used in the first non-stub revision is considered the default. If no English variety was used consistently, the tie is broken by the first post-stub contributor to introduce text written in a particular English variety." I have looked at the early use of language in the first 18 months, I am of the general impression that both UK and USA English are used to the extent that localisation is confusing; although my impression is that UK English predominates. The user who created the Salt article went on to made a number of edits. The creator's user page says that he or she lives in Slovenia and that he or she is not a native speaker of English and it seems that he or she used a mixture of UK and USA spellings, which clouded the issue of language localisation. Snowman ( talk) 12:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
The "Salt" article as it was when it was created at 11:51, 14 March 2005 had 6 level-2 sections and a prose size of 3969 Bytes or 670 words. It was not tagged with a stub template and it has the general appearance of a Start article. On its day of creation the article did not a have a stub template added, so it was not classified as a stub and never has been. I am going to examine each edit from article creation to find the tie breaker using UK and USA digital spell checkers separately with backup using the on-line Oxford English Dictionary, including both its USA and world dictionaries (I have access to the full OED site via my password). Anyone is welcome to check the spellings and I welcome double checking of my analysis. Note that sometimes pages containe both the UK and the USA versions of a word (ie aluminium and aluminum). Aluminium and aluminium may not be localising words because the default on chemical related pages is aluminium on the Wiki; however, the article appears to be a food article rather than a chemical article. I am listing the edits one by one from the time of article creation on 14 March 2005: Snowman ( talk) 12:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
It is actually quite difficult tracing this and using various spelling dictionaries on each page and diff, but anyone can double check. I hope I have put the links and diffs correctly; but if not, then reviewers can follow the edits for themselves. "Payed" is not UK English, but I am not sure if it is USA English or not. Does the use of the UK "practise" rather than the USA "practice" swing the tie breaker to UK English? Is there already a consensus or should the tie breaker apply? Any comments? Snowman ( talk) 12:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
Edit warring due to WP:RETAIN. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 15:19, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
Edit warring on an article means that the article is not stable, so it by definition does not meet WP:GACR. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 09:40, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
"Use this process if you find an article listed as a good article which does not satisfy the good article criteria." What part of that is hard to understand? This is a GA article which is undergoing edit warring with multiple editors other than myself. Cwmhiraeth, as an editor involved in creating this mess, I see your comment as being wrong to me. In fact I see a cabal of GA editors changing the spelling of an article per their non-neutral personal preference as being wrong to me. VMS Mosaic ( talk) 12:16, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
As the discussion has been started here, I think that it can be continued here. This GAR could be one of the features of a dispute over language varation, but I am not entirely certain. If this is a dispute, then the tie breaker rules would apply. The guidelines are prescriptive when there is a dispute about language localisation. If there is a dispute here, then the guidelines can be applied, and I think that the most relevant issue would be WP:RETAIN and in particular; "When no English variety has been established and discussion cannot resolve the issue, the variety used in the first non-stub revision is considered the default. If no English variety was used consistently, the tie is broken by the first post-stub contributor to introduce text written in a particular English variety." I have looked at the early use of language in the first 18 months, I am of the general impression that both UK and USA English are used to the extent that localisation is confusing; although my impression is that UK English predominates. The user who created the Salt article went on to made a number of edits. The creator's user page says that he or she lives in Slovenia and that he or she is not a native speaker of English and it seems that he or she used a mixture of UK and USA spellings, which clouded the issue of language localisation. Snowman ( talk) 12:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
The "Salt" article as it was when it was created at 11:51, 14 March 2005 had 6 level-2 sections and a prose size of 3969 Bytes or 670 words. It was not tagged with a stub template and it has the general appearance of a Start article. On its day of creation the article did not a have a stub template added, so it was not classified as a stub and never has been. I am going to examine each edit from article creation to find the tie breaker using UK and USA digital spell checkers separately with backup using the on-line Oxford English Dictionary, including both its USA and world dictionaries (I have access to the full OED site via my password). Anyone is welcome to check the spellings and I welcome double checking of my analysis. Note that sometimes pages containe both the UK and the USA versions of a word (ie aluminium and aluminum). Aluminium and aluminium may not be localising words because the default on chemical related pages is aluminium on the Wiki; however, the article appears to be a food article rather than a chemical article. I am listing the edits one by one from the time of article creation on 14 March 2005: Snowman ( talk) 12:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
It is actually quite difficult tracing this and using various spelling dictionaries on each page and diff, but anyone can double check. I hope I have put the links and diffs correctly; but if not, then reviewers can follow the edits for themselves. "Payed" is not UK English, but I am not sure if it is USA English or not. Does the use of the UK "practise" rather than the USA "practice" swing the tie breaker to UK English? Is there already a consensus or should the tie breaker apply? Any comments? Snowman ( talk) 12:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)