February 23
File:Haddaway-What Is Love.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- File:Haddaway-What Is Love.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wherelovelives ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I originally PRODded the screenshot of Haddaway in the " What Is Love" music video as "fail[ing] WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC8". The uploader de-prodded it, so I'm taking this to FFD here. First, (almost?) no sources substantially covering the music video have been found. Second, the screenshot depicting just the singer is unnecessary and would be replaceable by free existing images of the singer. Third, the singer appears both in the screenshot and the single release cover, making the screenshot less likely to be significantly different from the single cover, despite both being different media. Fourth, the article itself currently don't contain substantial critical commentary associated with the image. I welcome disagreements. George Ho ( talk) 02:45, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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File:Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By alt.png
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2020 May 2. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:30, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- File:Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By alt.png ( delete | talk | history | links | logs)
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File:Alfred Hitchcock Presents Music to Be Murdered By.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Seems like this has developed a keep consensus, as nobody other than the nom is convinced that deletion would be appropriate. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- File:Alfred Hitchcock Presents Music to Be Murdered By.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Koavf ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
As fair use is meant to be minimal ( WP:NFCC#3), this copyrighted cover art does not pass the threshold for inclusion. It's included on the article for Eminem's album Music to Be Murdered By since one of the alternative covers of the album was inspired by this piece. However, the album as a whole is inspired by Alfred Hitchcock's work, noted through the inclusion of spoken samples by the director himself. A free image of Hitchcock could convey the same purpose of this cover art, and there isn't enough critical analysis at the time to merit the inclusion of this 1958 cover art on an article for a 2020 album. At the moment, the article only has two sentences about connecting this image to the album's explicit cover. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 01:57, 24 January 2020 (UTC); Edited 16:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- I think one could argue that fair use here is minimal and is used for educational purposes and not commercially. A picture of Alfred Hitchcock without reference to this picture would not convey the same purpose of this cover art in the slightest. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
118.238.252.111 (
talk)
04:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Alfred Hitchcock's influence goes beyond the replication of this 1958 album. There's not enough commentary in the article to merit inclusion. The alternative cover has also been proposed for deletion for going against Template:Infobox_album#Template:Extra_album_cover and WP:NFCC#3. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 16:14, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Absolutely. There is considerable information that would be lost with the deletion of this image. Keep.
XeroxKleenex (
talk)
09:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ XeroxKleenex: What information would be lost if it can be explained through text? That's one of the requirements for fair use. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 11:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Absolutely. There is considerable information that would be lost with the deletion of this image. Keep.
XeroxKleenex (
talk)
09:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 22:46, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. See my comment(s) in the discussion
above. @
Nice4What: there is now a paragraph worth of sourced critical commentary specifically about the alternative cover and how it relates to this one. –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
22:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- No, I added that paragraph. It is not critical commentary about the alternative cover, it's critical commentary about the Hitchcock theme of the album. That's why I had replaced it with a free image of Hitchcock at one point. Fair use indicates that if a free alternative is sufficient, we must not use the non-free file (again, WP:NFCC#3). Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 22:48, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - Whether critical commentary for the Hitchcock image is sufficient is one thing, but then I realize that reliable source should confirm the similarities in order to avoid original research. Now there is sufficient commentary related to the Hitchcock image, so the "original research" is averted. You need proof that deleting the Hitchcock image is not "
detrimental to that understanding
". However, due to sources confirming the similarities and origin of image concept, I believe that deleting the Alfred image would force readers to either re-upload the image or seek elsewhere to compare the Alfred and Eminem images simultaneously. Also, I don't see how Alfred holding an axe and Eminem (or some guy) holding an axe and a gun "can convey equivalent significant information
", i.e. are identical to or equivalent to each other. Alfred and Eminem are different people, and even holding an axe doesn't make the info equally similar especially in regards to origins. Moreover, the Alfred image is the past, and Eminem one more recent. The decades-gap is very substantial enough to differentiate two images from each other. George Ho ( talk) 19:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)Commented at #File:Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By alt.png after forgetting or re-realizing similarities and differences between Alfred with axe and gun and Eminem with axe and gun. George Ho ( talk) 20:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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File:Front of Theatre Royal Stratford East by Richard Davenport.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:04, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- File:Front of Theatre Royal Stratford East by Richard Davenport.JPG ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sbrooks91 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
EXIF data has copyright information with author as Richard Davenport. We would need to WP:OTRS confirmation that this image has been released as PD. Whpq ( talk) 13:55, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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February 23
File:Haddaway-What Is Love.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 11:09, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
- File:Haddaway-What Is Love.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Wherelovelives ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
I originally PRODded the screenshot of Haddaway in the " What Is Love" music video as "fail[ing] WP:NFCC#3a and WP:NFCC8". The uploader de-prodded it, so I'm taking this to FFD here. First, (almost?) no sources substantially covering the music video have been found. Second, the screenshot depicting just the singer is unnecessary and would be replaceable by free existing images of the singer. Third, the singer appears both in the screenshot and the single release cover, making the screenshot less likely to be significantly different from the single cover, despite both being different media. Fourth, the article itself currently don't contain substantial critical commentary associated with the image. I welcome disagreements. George Ho ( talk) 02:45, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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File:Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By alt.png
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The result of the discussion was: relisted on 2020 May 2. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:30, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- File:Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By alt.png ( delete | talk | history | links | logs)
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File:Alfred Hitchcock Presents Music to Be Murdered By.jpg
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The result of the discussion was: keep. Seems like this has developed a keep consensus, as nobody other than the nom is convinced that deletion would be appropriate. Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:29, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
- File:Alfred Hitchcock Presents Music to Be Murdered By.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Koavf ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
As fair use is meant to be minimal ( WP:NFCC#3), this copyrighted cover art does not pass the threshold for inclusion. It's included on the article for Eminem's album Music to Be Murdered By since one of the alternative covers of the album was inspired by this piece. However, the album as a whole is inspired by Alfred Hitchcock's work, noted through the inclusion of spoken samples by the director himself. A free image of Hitchcock could convey the same purpose of this cover art, and there isn't enough critical analysis at the time to merit the inclusion of this 1958 cover art on an article for a 2020 album. At the moment, the article only has two sentences about connecting this image to the album's explicit cover. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 01:57, 24 January 2020 (UTC); Edited 16:16, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- I think one could argue that fair use here is minimal and is used for educational purposes and not commercially. A picture of Alfred Hitchcock without reference to this picture would not convey the same purpose of this cover art in the slightest. — Preceding
unsigned comment added by
118.238.252.111 (
talk)
04:15, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Alfred Hitchcock's influence goes beyond the replication of this 1958 album. There's not enough commentary in the article to merit inclusion. The alternative cover has also been proposed for deletion for going against Template:Infobox_album#Template:Extra_album_cover and WP:NFCC#3. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 16:14, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
- Absolutely. There is considerable information that would be lost with the deletion of this image. Keep.
XeroxKleenex (
talk)
09:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
- @ XeroxKleenex: What information would be lost if it can be explained through text? That's one of the requirements for fair use. Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 11:43, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
- Absolutely. There is considerable information that would be lost with the deletion of this image. Keep.
XeroxKleenex (
talk)
09:02, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, MBisanz talk 22:46, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. See my comment(s) in the discussion
above. @
Nice4What: there is now a paragraph worth of sourced critical commentary specifically about the alternative cover and how it relates to this one. –
Finnusertop (
talk ⋅
contribs)
22:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
- No, I added that paragraph. It is not critical commentary about the alternative cover, it's critical commentary about the Hitchcock theme of the album. That's why I had replaced it with a free image of Hitchcock at one point. Fair use indicates that if a free alternative is sufficient, we must not use the non-free file (again, WP:NFCC#3). Nice4What ( talk · contribs) – (Don't forget to share a Thanks ♥) 22:48, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 09:49, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
- Keep - Whether critical commentary for the Hitchcock image is sufficient is one thing, but then I realize that reliable source should confirm the similarities in order to avoid original research. Now there is sufficient commentary related to the Hitchcock image, so the "original research" is averted. You need proof that deleting the Hitchcock image is not "
detrimental to that understanding
". However, due to sources confirming the similarities and origin of image concept, I believe that deleting the Alfred image would force readers to either re-upload the image or seek elsewhere to compare the Alfred and Eminem images simultaneously. Also, I don't see how Alfred holding an axe and Eminem (or some guy) holding an axe and a gun "can convey equivalent significant information
", i.e. are identical to or equivalent to each other. Alfred and Eminem are different people, and even holding an axe doesn't make the info equally similar especially in regards to origins. Moreover, the Alfred image is the past, and Eminem one more recent. The decades-gap is very substantial enough to differentiate two images from each other. George Ho ( talk) 19:23, 23 February 2020 (UTC)Commented at #File:Eminem - Music to Be Murdered By alt.png after forgetting or re-realizing similarities and differences between Alfred with axe and gun and Eminem with axe and gun. George Ho ( talk) 20:33, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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File:Front of Theatre Royal Stratford East by Richard Davenport.JPG
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Fastily ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 08:04, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
- File:Front of Theatre Royal Stratford East by Richard Davenport.JPG ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Sbrooks91 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
EXIF data has copyright information with author as Richard Davenport. We would need to WP:OTRS confirmation that this image has been released as PD. Whpq ( talk) 13:55, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
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