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May 3

File:MyLuckyStarOST.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 02:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:MyLuckyStarOST.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 001Jrm ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free album cover being used in a decorative manner in My Lucky Star (TV series)#Soundtrack. Non-free album cover art is generally allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in stand-alone articles about albums, but its use in other articles is generally only allowed when the cover art itself is the subject of sourced critical commentary as explained in WP:NFC#cite_note-3 and the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 is evident. There is no such commentary for this particular album cover anywhere in the article, and the use of soundtrack album cover art in articles about films or TV programs is generally not allowed for this reason as explained in WP:FILMSCORE. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:48, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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File:MyQueenTaiwanOST.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 02:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:MyQueenTaiwanOST.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 001Jrm ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free album cover being used in a decorative manner in My Queen#Soundtrack. Non-free album cover art is generally allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in stand-alone articles about albums, but its use in other articles is generally only allowed when the cover art itself is the subject of sourced critical commentary as explained in WP:NFC#cite_note-3 and the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 is evident. There is no such commentary for this particular album cover anywhere in the article, and the use of soundtrack album cover art in articles about films or TV programs is generally not allowed for this reason as explained in WP:FILMSCORE. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:56, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005 film) album covers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 02:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Mr. & Mrs. Smith original soundtrack album cover.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hippi ippi ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 
File:Mr. & Mrs. Smith original score album cover.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hippi ippi ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free album covers being used in a decorative manner in Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005 film)#Music. Non-free album cover art is generally allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in stand-alone articles about albums, but its use in other articles is generally only allowed when the cover art itself is the subject of sourced critical commentary as explained in WP:NFC#cite_note-3 and the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 is evident. There is no such commentary for these particular album covers anywhere in the article, and the use of soundtrack album cover art in articles about films or TV programs is generally not allowed for this reason as explained in WP:FILMSCORE. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:11, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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File:Shorta.png

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 01:11, 11 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Shorta.png ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kamool 18 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Fake, non-official logo of an Egyptian club called Ittihad El Shorta SC. The official logo can be found on the club's article. Ben5218 ( talk) 04:54, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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File:Who's a Rat screenshot.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. All of nom's issues have been addressed. xplicit 09:32, 10 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Who's a Rat screenshot.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Daniel Case ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Two and a half reasons: I believe the free status of this picture is not necessarily reliable - a read through both of the article and the website itself indicates that copyright of the photos of the individuals on the site itself are not reliably (or at all) held.

While a picture of a website might be fair use, there's no way that Wikipedia can reliably use the photos within that site themselves.

I also feel that any actual use of the article would not be permitted due to the BLP policy on disparaging images WP:MUG. That would make this photo an inherent orphan.

Finally, there are not indefensible concerns of safety here, with the 3 individuals being at some heightened risk. Nosebagbear ( talk) 19:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC) Nosebagbear ( talk) 19:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply

It's not represented as a free image ... go look at the image page; there's a fair-use justification. Second, if it were just those images, you'd have a point, but I would consider those pictures to be de minimis use; on Commons that's considered acceptable in an otherwise free image. As for the other concerns you have expressed, they are not by themselves reasons to delete an image, and honestly they could be easily addressed by blurring out the faces. Daniel Case ( talk) 19:21, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply
@ Daniel Case: - given their prominence, comparable size and identifiability, I would say that the usage of the photos is significant enough to surpass the de minimis level. In consideration to the other aspects, certainly they could be resolved by face blurring - if I could do so then I could at least reduce this to a single concern. Nosebagbear ( talk) 19:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply
@ Nosebagbear: I can do it later today. Daniel Case ( talk) 20:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply
 Done A little bit later than I would have hoped, but done. Daniel Case ( talk) 17:57, 29 April 2019 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep. Certainly, at least after the blurring, it's de minimis and any BLP concerns have been rectified. –  Finnusertop ( talkcontribs) 17:01, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply
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Files from wixsite-ritmodelchino

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The result of the discussion was: delete. There is no evidence that the copyright holders have licensed these work as PD. —  JJMC89( T· C) 01:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Vinincunca Mountain Range, Cusco Peru 2019.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DoctorSpeed ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Pedro Pablo Kuczynski 2019 trial.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DoctorSpeed ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Pedro Pablo Kuczynski 2019.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DoctorSpeed ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:El Ritmo del Chino.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DoctorSpeed ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

All of these images are licensed as public domain and sourced from https://kelaoshi.wixsite.com/ritmodelchino and https://kelaoshi.wixsite.com/ritmodelchino/recent which does indeed make a statement that the material is public domain. However, that claim on the website is simply not true.

The claim of public domain from the source site does not hold up to scrutiny. ( talk) 13:27, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

@ Whpq I don't see any evidence that that is untrue, however I was simply following the indications of Wikipedia's "free use policy" as I found this on a website that published "free use" photos. I am not responsible for what this site publishes/ does not publish, nor the validity of the statement they make. DoctorSpeed Want to talk?
Furthermore, I do recognize that some of the photos (judging from your detailed post on the Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 May 3 page) are from the videos you have mentioned, however I am leaving the possibility that the author of this site has obtained a license from the original publishing media, or may have even published the media him/herself. I am in the look for a form of contact on the site that I have obtained the media to directly reach out to the author for clarification, or to question the validity of the licenses he/she has placed on the media. Regardless, I do think it is healthy to go through the files for discussion process of which you have initiated. Regards, DoctorSpeed Want to talk?
The chances that the site's owner licensed the images as public domain are vanishingly small. Shutterstock is a stock image company. Yhey license images but not by releasing it in the public domain. Also, the site owner made the claim "I've had the opportunity to recently photography some events that were happening in Peru that involved former President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski's trial because of the Odebrecht scandal.", but the photo that he implies he took is not a photo, it's a screenshot and even includes the Justicia TV logo. That's just a straight up lie. -- Whpq ( talk) 15:16, 4 May 2019 (UTC) reply
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File:Adele 21 PVG.png

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 01:10, 11 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Adele 21 PVG.png ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ssredg ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free image does not meet criteria at WP:NFC. Despite being a songbook cover, it is featured in the generic article Album and has little to no contextual significance. – Dream out loud ( talk) 18:16, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Delete - not being used as primary visual identification at the top of the article as claimed in the NFUR -- Whpq ( talk) 22:17, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply
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May 3

File:MyLuckyStarOST.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 02:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:MyLuckyStarOST.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 001Jrm ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free album cover being used in a decorative manner in My Lucky Star (TV series)#Soundtrack. Non-free album cover art is generally allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in stand-alone articles about albums, but its use in other articles is generally only allowed when the cover art itself is the subject of sourced critical commentary as explained in WP:NFC#cite_note-3 and the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 is evident. There is no such commentary for this particular album cover anywhere in the article, and the use of soundtrack album cover art in articles about films or TV programs is generally not allowed for this reason as explained in WP:FILMSCORE. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:48, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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File:MyQueenTaiwanOST.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 02:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:MyQueenTaiwanOST.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by 001Jrm ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free album cover being used in a decorative manner in My Queen#Soundtrack. Non-free album cover art is generally allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in stand-alone articles about albums, but its use in other articles is generally only allowed when the cover art itself is the subject of sourced critical commentary as explained in WP:NFC#cite_note-3 and the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 is evident. There is no such commentary for this particular album cover anywhere in the article, and the use of soundtrack album cover art in articles about films or TV programs is generally not allowed for this reason as explained in WP:FILMSCORE. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:56, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005 film) album covers

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 02:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Mr. & Mrs. Smith original soundtrack album cover.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hippi ippi ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 
File:Mr. & Mrs. Smith original score album cover.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Hippi ippi ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).

Non-free album covers being used in a decorative manner in Mr. & Mrs. Smith (2005 film)#Music. Non-free album cover art is generally allowed to be used for primary identification purposes in stand-alone articles about albums, but its use in other articles is generally only allowed when the cover art itself is the subject of sourced critical commentary as explained in WP:NFC#cite_note-3 and the context for non-free use required by WP:NFCC#8 is evident. There is no such commentary for these particular album covers anywhere in the article, and the use of soundtrack album cover art in articles about films or TV programs is generally not allowed for this reason as explained in WP:FILMSCORE. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:11, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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File:Shorta.png

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 01:11, 11 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Shorta.png ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kamool 18 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Fake, non-official logo of an Egyptian club called Ittihad El Shorta SC. The official logo can be found on the club's article. Ben5218 ( talk) 04:54, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

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File:Who's a Rat screenshot.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. All of nom's issues have been addressed. xplicit 09:32, 10 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Who's a Rat screenshot.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Daniel Case ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Two and a half reasons: I believe the free status of this picture is not necessarily reliable - a read through both of the article and the website itself indicates that copyright of the photos of the individuals on the site itself are not reliably (or at all) held.

While a picture of a website might be fair use, there's no way that Wikipedia can reliably use the photos within that site themselves.

I also feel that any actual use of the article would not be permitted due to the BLP policy on disparaging images WP:MUG. That would make this photo an inherent orphan.

Finally, there are not indefensible concerns of safety here, with the 3 individuals being at some heightened risk. Nosebagbear ( talk) 19:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC) Nosebagbear ( talk) 19:11, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply

It's not represented as a free image ... go look at the image page; there's a fair-use justification. Second, if it were just those images, you'd have a point, but I would consider those pictures to be de minimis use; on Commons that's considered acceptable in an otherwise free image. As for the other concerns you have expressed, they are not by themselves reasons to delete an image, and honestly they could be easily addressed by blurring out the faces. Daniel Case ( talk) 19:21, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply
@ Daniel Case: - given their prominence, comparable size and identifiability, I would say that the usage of the photos is significant enough to surpass the de minimis level. In consideration to the other aspects, certainly they could be resolved by face blurring - if I could do so then I could at least reduce this to a single concern. Nosebagbear ( talk) 19:49, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply
@ Nosebagbear: I can do it later today. Daniel Case ( talk) 20:08, 25 April 2019 (UTC) reply
 Done A little bit later than I would have hoped, but done. Daniel Case ( talk) 17:57, 29 April 2019 (UTC) reply
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  • Keep. Certainly, at least after the blurring, it's de minimis and any BLP concerns have been rectified. –  Finnusertop ( talkcontribs) 17:01, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply
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Files from wixsite-ritmodelchino

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The result of the discussion was: delete. There is no evidence that the copyright holders have licensed these work as PD. —  JJMC89( T· C) 01:14, 11 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Vinincunca Mountain Range, Cusco Peru 2019.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DoctorSpeed ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Pedro Pablo Kuczynski 2019 trial.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DoctorSpeed ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:Pedro Pablo Kuczynski 2019.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DoctorSpeed ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log).
File:El Ritmo del Chino.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by DoctorSpeed ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

All of these images are licensed as public domain and sourced from https://kelaoshi.wixsite.com/ritmodelchino and https://kelaoshi.wixsite.com/ritmodelchino/recent which does indeed make a statement that the material is public domain. However, that claim on the website is simply not true.

The claim of public domain from the source site does not hold up to scrutiny. ( talk) 13:27, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

@ Whpq I don't see any evidence that that is untrue, however I was simply following the indications of Wikipedia's "free use policy" as I found this on a website that published "free use" photos. I am not responsible for what this site publishes/ does not publish, nor the validity of the statement they make. DoctorSpeed Want to talk?
Furthermore, I do recognize that some of the photos (judging from your detailed post on the Wikipedia:Files for discussion/2019 May 3 page) are from the videos you have mentioned, however I am leaving the possibility that the author of this site has obtained a license from the original publishing media, or may have even published the media him/herself. I am in the look for a form of contact on the site that I have obtained the media to directly reach out to the author for clarification, or to question the validity of the licenses he/she has placed on the media. Regardless, I do think it is healthy to go through the files for discussion process of which you have initiated. Regards, DoctorSpeed Want to talk?
The chances that the site's owner licensed the images as public domain are vanishingly small. Shutterstock is a stock image company. Yhey license images but not by releasing it in the public domain. Also, the site owner made the claim "I've had the opportunity to recently photography some events that were happening in Peru that involved former President Pedro Pablo Kuczynski's trial because of the Odebrecht scandal.", but the photo that he implies he took is not a photo, it's a screenshot and even includes the Justicia TV logo. That's just a straight up lie. -- Whpq ( talk) 15:16, 4 May 2019 (UTC) reply
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File:Adele 21 PVG.png

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The result of the discussion was: delete. —  JJMC89( T· C) 01:10, 11 May 2019 (UTC) reply

File:Adele 21 PVG.png ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Ssredg ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Non-free image does not meet criteria at WP:NFC. Despite being a songbook cover, it is featured in the generic article Album and has little to no contextual significance. – Dream out loud ( talk) 18:16, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply

  • Delete - not being used as primary visual identification at the top of the article as claimed in the NFUR -- Whpq ( talk) 22:17, 3 May 2019 (UTC) reply
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