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File:UTA Arad.png

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The result of the discussion was: Relicense as PD-USonly Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 10:01, 19 November 2016 (UTC) reply

File:UTA Arad.png ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dan69en ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

File was uploaded as a non-free logo, but its design might be simple enough to qualify as either {{ PD-logo}} or perhaps {{ PD-USonly}} if the design is above the Romanian threshold of originality. On the other hand, if the consensus is that the logo's design is complex enough to require a non-free license, then it's use in 1947–48 Cupa României and 1953 Cupa României is mainly decorative and lacking the context required by WP:NFCC#8 and it should be removed from those articles.

So, if simple enough for public domain, convert to an appropriate PD license and tag with {{ Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}. If non-free, keep in the stand-alone article about the team itself and remove from the two individual tournament articles. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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File:Pikachu seizure-2.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Explicit ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 08:06, 22 November 2016 (UTC) reply

File:Pikachu seizure-2.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RattleMan ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This was previously nominated for deletion, and previously taken to NFCR, because of a dispute regarding the fairness of our using it. I do not dispute that — this specific imagery from Dennō Senshi Porygon had worldwide coverage for its effects on those with photosensitive epilepsy and prompted the creation of industry standards to prevent such an incident in the future, so I can't see how anyone could question the idea that some depiction of the scene can be fair use for an encyclopedia article. However, we have two images of the same scene, and there's no reason to keep both this one and File:Denno.ogg. This one being only a single frame and the other being a few seconds of the scene, and as the other one's much more informative (given the importance of the flashing, it's quite important to have the video, and not just one frame), I believe it's much better to delete this one and keep the other, not vice versa. Nyttend ( talk) 01:20, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Huh? Both images have the same nonfree copyright status. Are you arguing that a copy of a world-famous image, used in an article about that image (because that's the basis for notability for the episode article), is not a fair use? Nyttend ( talk) 03:15, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • I'd say it can be. I'm just not fond of orphaning a nonfree image that's currently at FFD; if nothing else, this prevents people from seeing how it's currently used. I'll be happy to orphan it if the discussion concludes in favor of deletion. Nyttend ( talk) 01:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
@ Nyttend: I trust you on the best course of action here, I agree that it is pointless to have a still image. Delete this image, and keep the other. If you are following this discussion then I apologize for the double ping. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 14:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
No problem, Knowledgekid87; I didn't get any pings at all, so I guess you made some little mistake. Nyttend ( talk) 23:38, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
You need to advance a rationale for your vote, and "no" doesn't particularly help at all. Nyttend ( talk) 01:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
@ Nyttend: FWIW I've blocked the IP range that made that edit for doing things like this. Graham 87 05:21, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I agree that both of the files are not needed per WP:NFCC#3, I'm just not sure if it is the screenshot that should be deleted based upon the reasons given by Masem in the aforementioned Wikipedia:Non-free content review/Archive 34#File:Pikachu seizure-2.jpg. Can we be absolutely sure that the ogg file will not cause the same problems which occurred when that particular episode aired? I don't have epilepsy so watching the ogg file does not bother me, but I can't really say for sure that it will not affect others in a bad way. If the consensus is that it won't beyond any shadow of doubt, then I think the screenshot should be deleted; otherwise, the ogg file should probably be deleted.
As for the non-free use in the articles themselves, I think the non-free justification in the stand-alone article about the episode itself is justified regardless of which file is kept. I think non-free use justification is a little weaker in the Photosensitive epilepsy#Society and culture simply because this is just a general about this kind of thing and not just this particular episode. There are four other similar examples mentioned. Why is this particular file the most appropriate one to be used and not any file from the other examples. Why can't a freely licensed file such as File:Strobe 2.gif being used in Stroboscopic effect or a file from c:Category:Strobe light being used here instead of a non-free image per WP:NFCC#1? There is a wikilink to the Pokemon episode stand-alone article where the file can be seen, so I'm also not sure if the non-free file is needed per number 6 of WP:NFC#UUI. As for the non-free use in Pokémon episodes removed from rotation, I think that the hardest to justify for non-free use since it is essentially a list article and there, once again, is a link (a hatnote as well) to the stand-alone article about the episode itself. At first glance, it also looks like most of the content in about the problem is the same in both articles and since the stand-alone article was created after the "removed from rotation" article, it might have just been split off from the latter. Again, Number 6 of NFC#UUI seems to say that a link to the stand-alone article is sufficient in this case. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:54, 16 November 2016 (UTC) reply
Unlike Wikimedia Commons, the fact that the file is "not free" is not automatically a valid reason for deletion on Wikipedia. If you take a closer look at WP:NOTFREE, you find that Wikipedia does allow non-free content to be uploaded and used locally under certain restrictive conditions. Moreover, there are essentially two files being discussed so it's not clear whether you're referring to which file or files you're suggesting should be deleted. Finally, if by chance you are also IP 2600:1:B10F:EC8B:90E8:1255:9E97:C848 or IP 2600:1:B15E:A34:6544:2296:3035:A22A, then please try to stick to using only one account. For reference, deletion discussions are not decided by simply counting votes, but rather on which side best reflects Wikipedia's policies and guidelines; in other words, it's not the number of votes made, but rather the quality of the arguments made that matters the most. So, meat puppetry and sock puppetry tend to be discounted by the administrators who close these types of discussions. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC) reply
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The result of the discussion was: Delete; deleted by Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT 11:06, 19 November 2016 (UTC) reply

File:GWIRF Logo.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Krmysl54 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Image is not the subject of discussion in any article, and gives no benefit to informing readers about the article or the GWIRF (NFCC #8). No evidence of previous publication (#4); no evidence it is the GWIRF's logo. Also used in user sandbox (#9). ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 02:59, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NFCC#8 with no contextual significance and its omission would not be detrimental to understanding. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:25, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails MOS:FILM#Soundtrack and WP:NFCC#8. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:27, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails MOS:FILM#Soundtrack and WP:NFCC#8. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:28, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails MOS:FILM#Soundtrack and WP:NFCC#8. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails MOS:FILM#Soundtrack and WP:NFCC#8. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NFCC#8. Vensatry (talk) 11:32, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NFCC#8. Vensatry (talk) 11:35, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Probably copyvio (low resolution, no metadata etc). As I consider, it was uploaded independently in ruWP with the same copyright violation. But moreover file could be found in web with more resolution Dmitry89 ( talk) 21:37, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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November 11

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The result of the discussion was: Relicense as PD-USonly Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk, contributions) 10:01, 19 November 2016 (UTC) reply

File:UTA Arad.png ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Dan69en ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

File was uploaded as a non-free logo, but its design might be simple enough to qualify as either {{ PD-logo}} or perhaps {{ PD-USonly}} if the design is above the Romanian threshold of originality. On the other hand, if the consensus is that the logo's design is complex enough to require a non-free license, then it's use in 1947–48 Cupa României and 1953 Cupa României is mainly decorative and lacking the context required by WP:NFCC#8 and it should be removed from those articles.

So, if simple enough for public domain, convert to an appropriate PD license and tag with {{ Copy to Wikimedia Commons}}. If non-free, keep in the stand-alone article about the team itself and remove from the two individual tournament articles. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:14, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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File:Pikachu seizure-2.jpg

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File:Pikachu seizure-2.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by RattleMan ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

This was previously nominated for deletion, and previously taken to NFCR, because of a dispute regarding the fairness of our using it. I do not dispute that — this specific imagery from Dennō Senshi Porygon had worldwide coverage for its effects on those with photosensitive epilepsy and prompted the creation of industry standards to prevent such an incident in the future, so I can't see how anyone could question the idea that some depiction of the scene can be fair use for an encyclopedia article. However, we have two images of the same scene, and there's no reason to keep both this one and File:Denno.ogg. This one being only a single frame and the other being a few seconds of the scene, and as the other one's much more informative (given the importance of the flashing, it's quite important to have the video, and not just one frame), I believe it's much better to delete this one and keep the other, not vice versa. Nyttend ( talk) 01:20, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

Huh? Both images have the same nonfree copyright status. Are you arguing that a copy of a world-famous image, used in an article about that image (because that's the basis for notability for the episode article), is not a fair use? Nyttend ( talk) 03:15, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • I'd say it can be. I'm just not fond of orphaning a nonfree image that's currently at FFD; if nothing else, this prevents people from seeing how it's currently used. I'll be happy to orphan it if the discussion concludes in favor of deletion. Nyttend ( talk) 01:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
@ Nyttend: I trust you on the best course of action here, I agree that it is pointless to have a still image. Delete this image, and keep the other. If you are following this discussion then I apologize for the double ping. - Knowledgekid87 ( talk) 14:37, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
No problem, Knowledgekid87; I didn't get any pings at all, so I guess you made some little mistake. Nyttend ( talk) 23:38, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
You need to advance a rationale for your vote, and "no" doesn't particularly help at all. Nyttend ( talk) 01:39, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
@ Nyttend: FWIW I've blocked the IP range that made that edit for doing things like this. Graham 87 05:21, 15 November 2016 (UTC) reply
  • Comment: I agree that both of the files are not needed per WP:NFCC#3, I'm just not sure if it is the screenshot that should be deleted based upon the reasons given by Masem in the aforementioned Wikipedia:Non-free content review/Archive 34#File:Pikachu seizure-2.jpg. Can we be absolutely sure that the ogg file will not cause the same problems which occurred when that particular episode aired? I don't have epilepsy so watching the ogg file does not bother me, but I can't really say for sure that it will not affect others in a bad way. If the consensus is that it won't beyond any shadow of doubt, then I think the screenshot should be deleted; otherwise, the ogg file should probably be deleted.
As for the non-free use in the articles themselves, I think the non-free justification in the stand-alone article about the episode itself is justified regardless of which file is kept. I think non-free use justification is a little weaker in the Photosensitive epilepsy#Society and culture simply because this is just a general about this kind of thing and not just this particular episode. There are four other similar examples mentioned. Why is this particular file the most appropriate one to be used and not any file from the other examples. Why can't a freely licensed file such as File:Strobe 2.gif being used in Stroboscopic effect or a file from c:Category:Strobe light being used here instead of a non-free image per WP:NFCC#1? There is a wikilink to the Pokemon episode stand-alone article where the file can be seen, so I'm also not sure if the non-free file is needed per number 6 of WP:NFC#UUI. As for the non-free use in Pokémon episodes removed from rotation, I think that the hardest to justify for non-free use since it is essentially a list article and there, once again, is a link (a hatnote as well) to the stand-alone article about the episode itself. At first glance, it also looks like most of the content in about the problem is the same in both articles and since the stand-alone article was created after the "removed from rotation" article, it might have just been split off from the latter. Again, Number 6 of NFC#UUI seems to say that a link to the stand-alone article is sufficient in this case. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 00:54, 16 November 2016 (UTC) reply
Unlike Wikimedia Commons, the fact that the file is "not free" is not automatically a valid reason for deletion on Wikipedia. If you take a closer look at WP:NOTFREE, you find that Wikipedia does allow non-free content to be uploaded and used locally under certain restrictive conditions. Moreover, there are essentially two files being discussed so it's not clear whether you're referring to which file or files you're suggesting should be deleted. Finally, if by chance you are also IP 2600:1:B10F:EC8B:90E8:1255:9E97:C848 or IP 2600:1:B15E:A34:6544:2296:3035:A22A, then please try to stick to using only one account. For reference, deletion discussions are not decided by simply counting votes, but rather on which side best reflects Wikipedia's policies and guidelines; in other words, it's not the number of votes made, but rather the quality of the arguments made that matters the most. So, meat puppetry and sock puppetry tend to be discounted by the administrators who close these types of discussions. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 01:37, 18 November 2016 (UTC) reply
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File:GWIRF Logo.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Krmysl54 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Image is not the subject of discussion in any article, and gives no benefit to informing readers about the article or the GWIRF (NFCC #8). No evidence of previous publication (#4); no evidence it is the GWIRF's logo. Also used in user sandbox (#9). ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 02:59, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NFCC#8 with no contextual significance and its omission would not be detrimental to understanding. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:25, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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File:Lp-Namak Halaal.JPG ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kailash29792 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Fails MOS:FILM#Soundtrack and WP:NFCC#8. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:27, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails MOS:FILM#Soundtrack and WP:NFCC#8. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:28, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails MOS:FILM#Soundtrack and WP:NFCC#8. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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File:Mr india anil.jpg ( delete | talk | history | links | logs) – uploaded by Kailash29792 ( notify | contribs | uploads | upload log). 

Fails MOS:FILM#Soundtrack and WP:NFCC#8. - Vivvt ( Talk) 10:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NFCC#8. Vensatry (talk) 11:32, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Fails WP:NFCC#8. Vensatry (talk) 11:35, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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Probably copyvio (low resolution, no metadata etc). As I consider, it was uploaded independently in ruWP with the same copyright violation. But moreover file could be found in web with more resolution Dmitry89 ( talk) 21:37, 11 November 2016 (UTC) reply

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