The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the media below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the discussion was: delete. Images failed WP:NFCC#8. There was no commentary in the article concerning the screenshots or how they relate to the game engine or camera view and why that is of importance. - Nv8200p talk 02:35, 29 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Image:Shadowgrounds2.jpg ( delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Hahnchen ( notify | contribs).

• Non free image. Not critical to the understanding of the article it is used. Fails WP:NFCC#8. Since the image is not that important it is used in a gallery making it hard to see what it actually are depicting. Rettetast ( talk) 17:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Keep - We can have a few screenshots in an article about a game. Showing what the game looks like is important. A screenshot is only a tiny portion of the original work. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 11:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC) reply

• Keep - Gameplay screenshots are critical to the understanding of the article it is used. I originally uploaded 2 screenshots, both promos released by the developer, but you could probably removed one of them. They both show the game engine and the camera view. - hahnch e n 20:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC) reply
• Delete. Image is rationaled to "demonstrate an important facet of the article, its graphics and gameplay." but is not used in the article by any means to accomplish this goal. Image is currently galleried and captioned: "Shadowgrounds supports multiplayer cooperative play on one machine." Image fails WP:NFCC#1, #3a, & #8. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 21:10, 24 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • It is used in the article to accomplish the goal. The screenshot shows the gameplay, in particular co-op multiplayer mode, the setting and the camera angle. It shows the graphics engine, in particular its light and shadow effects. The image is of importance to both the overview and gameplay elements of the article. If you're not wholly satisfied with the placement of the image within the article, feel free to edit. - hahnch e n 22:31, 24 July 2008 (UTC) reply
    • It's being used in the article to decorate the "Co-operative Mode" section and/or its accompanying caption text. The cooperative mode of play fails at WP:NFCC#1 as being easily describable with any accompanying prose. As for the game's graphical engine and particulars, the article has no reliably sourced references to such as to require any copyrighted imagery to enhance the readers' understanding; as such, it's decorating the article and fails WP:NFCC#8. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 19:34, 25 July 2008 (UTC) reply
• Delete non-free image being used in a gallery contrary to guidance at WP:NFC. — BQZip01 —  ^talk 19:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC) reply
  • I can understand pd_THOR's comments regarding the lack of sources in the text that the image supports, but the gallery argument is broken. So placing the image outside of the gallery would make it fine? - hahnch e n 19:23, 27 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Image:Shadowgrounds1.jpg ( delete | talk | history | logs) - uploaded by Hahnchen ( notify | contribs).

• Non free image. Not critical to the understanding of the article it is used. Fails WP:NFCC#8. Since the image is not that important it is used in a gallery making it hard to see what it actually are depicting. Rettetast ( talk) 17:37, 23 July 2008 (UTC) reply

Keep - We can have a few screenshots in an article about a game. Showing what the game looks like is important. A screenshot is only a tiny portion of the original work. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 11:53, 24 July 2008 (UTC) reply

• Delete. Image is rationaled to "demonstrate an important facet of the article, its graphics and gameplay." but is not used in the article by any means of reliable sourced prose to accomplish this goal. Image is currently galleried and captioned: "The player electrocutes an alien." Image fails WP:NFCC#1, #3a, & #8. — pd_THOR ^{| =/\=} | 21:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC) reply
• Delete non-free image being used in a gallery contrary to guidance at WP:NFC. — BQZip01 —  ^talk 19:01, 27 July 2008 (UTC) reply

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the media's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.