Although I was not the main contributor on any topic, I decided to nominate them because who managed to Good Article class, maybe forgot nominate them to Good Topics.
TbhotchTalk19:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I removed
B'Day From being listed twice.
Zginder 2010-03-13T16:06Z (
UTC)
Why is
Suga Mama, which is a good article, not included?
Zginder 2010-03-13T16:06Z (
UTC)
...But then, if you look at other album topics, they usually include tour article/DVD articles/EP articles, if they exist. Look at, for example,
Rock Steady,
Confessions on a Dance Floor and
Phantom Power, which all include articles of these varieties.
The topics lacking some of these articles are Love. Angel. Music. Baby. (as you pointed out),
True Blue (missing
Who's That Girl World Tour) and the three Coldplay topics (tour articles, maybe also an EP in one case). So I make that 5 album topics lacking, and 9 including everything (there are 14 total). But if you look at the dates the topics were promoted, the more recent ones are the more inclusive ones. Interestingly Rock Steady recently went through an FTRC due to lacking
Rock Steady Live, and the result was that this article was brought up to GA and added to the topic, thus the topic was kept. I think what you're noticing is that standards are shifting. Further, it makes sense that a tour supporting an album is within the scope of that album's topic, doesn't it? After all, there is a section
B'Day#Tour.
And at any rate, you seem to agree that Check on It should be added (what about Amor Gitano?). You've also ignored the point that you should have notified those who got the articles up to scratch before nominating the topic -
rst20xx (
talk)
13:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Guys your right, I anticipated the nominee. Check on it, Amor Gitano and Hollywood should be here too. Where can I decline the nomination? Also, I searched who was the major contributor.
User:Efe was the one who got the GA and FA articles but currently is inactive.
TbhotchTalkC.02:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Oppose I do think that the singles off the deluxe version need to be included as the lead is the article about the "normal and deluxe versions.
Zginder 2010-03-16T16:16Z (
UTC)
I am nominating this topic as Good Topic. This is one of the best airline in the world and it is from one of the smallest city in the world. Interestingly, both of the related articles Air Hong Kong and Dragonair are former competitors of Cathay Pacific.
Apologies, I certainly didn't mean to look like I am cherry picking. I thought I can add them into the topic later, once they are good enough to be included. Anyway, I am in the process of bring the other three Lists to FL quality, please bear with me. (Work in Progress -
List of Dragonair destinations) --
Aviator006 (
talk)
09:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Topics need to have all articles included from the start. Supplementary nominations tend to happen when a new article is created, or when the scope of the topic is changed slightly. Should I withdraw this? -
rst20xx (
talk)
15:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Yes, I have nominated List of Dragonair destinations for FL, and the other two may take a little time. Please kindly withdraw this nomination. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Aviator006 (
talk)
16:23, 15 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I don't see how there would be interference, class topics are different from that type of topic. The only issue there is whether or not to use subtopics since we have the class topics. Of course that is a discussion for when that topic is nominated, not now. -MBK00422:26, 31 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment - when the class topic comes around, I'd advocate folding that one into this one. I would support this being featured in the meantime, but the class topic is incredibly close to getting here itself - its lead is at FLC, and if that is promoted then it is ready. So the time between this FTC closing and that one opening could be a matter of days. Hence I think it's worth establishing now whether this should be a subtopic of that one, or part of it, and if the latter is decided, it's not worth promoting this until the FLC finishes. As I said, I'd advocate combining the topics, as there are 13 articles involved, which is a perfectly reasonable number for a topic, and the unified presentation looks very neat. Better one of 13 than three of 8, 3 and 4 -
rst20xx (
talk)
14:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)reply
I think the answers are yes and yes. This has happened once before by the way, when the Halo trilogy topic was merged into the Halo media topic. I'll archive this when I have the time, feel free to bring a new nomination -
rst20xx (
talk)
11:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)reply
Although I was not the main contributor on any topic, I decided to nominate them because who managed to Good Article class, maybe forgot nominate them to Good Topics.
TbhotchTalk19:34, 12 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I removed
B'Day From being listed twice.
Zginder 2010-03-13T16:06Z (
UTC)
Why is
Suga Mama, which is a good article, not included?
Zginder 2010-03-13T16:06Z (
UTC)
...But then, if you look at other album topics, they usually include tour article/DVD articles/EP articles, if they exist. Look at, for example,
Rock Steady,
Confessions on a Dance Floor and
Phantom Power, which all include articles of these varieties.
The topics lacking some of these articles are Love. Angel. Music. Baby. (as you pointed out),
True Blue (missing
Who's That Girl World Tour) and the three Coldplay topics (tour articles, maybe also an EP in one case). So I make that 5 album topics lacking, and 9 including everything (there are 14 total). But if you look at the dates the topics were promoted, the more recent ones are the more inclusive ones. Interestingly Rock Steady recently went through an FTRC due to lacking
Rock Steady Live, and the result was that this article was brought up to GA and added to the topic, thus the topic was kept. I think what you're noticing is that standards are shifting. Further, it makes sense that a tour supporting an album is within the scope of that album's topic, doesn't it? After all, there is a section
B'Day#Tour.
And at any rate, you seem to agree that Check on It should be added (what about Amor Gitano?). You've also ignored the point that you should have notified those who got the articles up to scratch before nominating the topic -
rst20xx (
talk)
13:59, 15 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Guys your right, I anticipated the nominee. Check on it, Amor Gitano and Hollywood should be here too. Where can I decline the nomination? Also, I searched who was the major contributor.
User:Efe was the one who got the GA and FA articles but currently is inactive.
TbhotchTalkC.02:36, 16 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Oppose I do think that the singles off the deluxe version need to be included as the lead is the article about the "normal and deluxe versions.
Zginder 2010-03-16T16:16Z (
UTC)
I am nominating this topic as Good Topic. This is one of the best airline in the world and it is from one of the smallest city in the world. Interestingly, both of the related articles Air Hong Kong and Dragonair are former competitors of Cathay Pacific.
Apologies, I certainly didn't mean to look like I am cherry picking. I thought I can add them into the topic later, once they are good enough to be included. Anyway, I am in the process of bring the other three Lists to FL quality, please bear with me. (Work in Progress -
List of Dragonair destinations) --
Aviator006 (
talk)
09:19, 14 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Topics need to have all articles included from the start. Supplementary nominations tend to happen when a new article is created, or when the scope of the topic is changed slightly. Should I withdraw this? -
rst20xx (
talk)
15:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)reply
Yes, I have nominated List of Dragonair destinations for FL, and the other two may take a little time. Please kindly withdraw this nomination. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Aviator006 (
talk)
16:23, 15 March 2010 (UTC)reply
I don't see how there would be interference, class topics are different from that type of topic. The only issue there is whether or not to use subtopics since we have the class topics. Of course that is a discussion for when that topic is nominated, not now. -MBK00422:26, 31 January 2010 (UTC)reply
Comment - when the class topic comes around, I'd advocate folding that one into this one. I would support this being featured in the meantime, but the class topic is incredibly close to getting here itself - its lead is at FLC, and if that is promoted then it is ready. So the time between this FTC closing and that one opening could be a matter of days. Hence I think it's worth establishing now whether this should be a subtopic of that one, or part of it, and if the latter is decided, it's not worth promoting this until the FLC finishes. As I said, I'd advocate combining the topics, as there are 13 articles involved, which is a perfectly reasonable number for a topic, and the unified presentation looks very neat. Better one of 13 than three of 8, 3 and 4 -
rst20xx (
talk)
14:59, 1 February 2010 (UTC)reply
I think the answers are yes and yes. This has happened once before by the way, when the Halo trilogy topic was merged into the Halo media topic. I'll archive this when I have the time, feel free to bring a new nomination -
rst20xx (
talk)
11:17, 28 February 2010 (UTC)reply