The dimensions of this image are respectable. Going back to its
FPC Nomination, I learned the image was a panorama. However, the subject is cut off, which I think really takes away a lot from the image. Furthermore, there are various places where the highlights are blown out. For example, notice the shoes, his helmet, and the ceiling.
Delist. Bad lighting, the "fisheye effect" is not appropriate here, and the reflection in the helmet is just too messy. --
Janke |
Talk 20:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. Just a weird perspective, it looks strange. And, as mentioned, cut-off at the side. A shame though. --
jjron 11:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep A good high res stitch. Promoted with +9/-0. ed g2s •
talk 16:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
... almost two years ago, 8/2004. FPC "standards" have changed enormously since then. --
Janke |
Talk 16:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. This is not a compelling picture, the subject is at an odd angle, bad cropping, non-standard size.
Wittylama 16:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. Per above. --
Mad Max 21:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist per above. Fairly unattractive. --
bcasterline •
talk 23:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. I don't think the perspective was necessary. I've been to the museum and there is more than enough space to move further back and avoid that perspective.
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs) 16:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep. No way am I supporting the delisting of this. If there's a better image that's already here or can be immediately uploaded, then I'll change my vote, but this is a historically important image, and is an example of Wikipedia's coverage of important subjects with great photos. —
Vanderdecken∴∫ξφ 12:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. This image is in NO way historically important, the exact same shot can be taken by anyone else any day of the week. Historic this ain't. --
Dante Alighieri |
Talk 19:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Yes, but can that shot be uploaded to Wikipedia any day of the week? —
Vanderdecken∴∫ξφ 13:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Anyone who visits the museum and happens to take a photo of it can, yeah. I should have done so when I was there but taking a photo of every significant object in the museum wasn't my priority at the time.
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs) 14:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
It CAN be, but that doesn't mean it WILL be. But that's irrelevant anyway. The point is, your whole argument is specious. A "historically important" image is one where it is impossible to replace or reproduce. The 1906 Earthquake panorama at the top of the page is an example. No one can take that photo anymore. This photo here is easily and trivially replaced, hence the picture is not historically important. The SUBJECT is historically important, to be sure, but (as I've stated) the flaws in the picture make it inelligible (IMO) for FP status. --
Dante Alighieri |
Talk 18:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
The dimensions of this image are respectable. Going back to its
FPC Nomination, I learned the image was a panorama. However, the subject is cut off, which I think really takes away a lot from the image. Furthermore, there are various places where the highlights are blown out. For example, notice the shoes, his helmet, and the ceiling.
Delist. Bad lighting, the "fisheye effect" is not appropriate here, and the reflection in the helmet is just too messy. --
Janke |
Talk 20:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. Just a weird perspective, it looks strange. And, as mentioned, cut-off at the side. A shame though. --
jjron 11:19, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep A good high res stitch. Promoted with +9/-0. ed g2s •
talk 16:25, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
... almost two years ago, 8/2004. FPC "standards" have changed enormously since then. --
Janke |
Talk 16:59, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. This is not a compelling picture, the subject is at an odd angle, bad cropping, non-standard size.
Wittylama 16:46, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. Per above. --
Mad Max 21:49, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist per above. Fairly unattractive. --
bcasterline •
talk 23:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. I don't think the perspective was necessary. I've been to the museum and there is more than enough space to move further back and avoid that perspective.
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs) 16:28, 31 May 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep. No way am I supporting the delisting of this. If there's a better image that's already here or can be immediately uploaded, then I'll change my vote, but this is a historically important image, and is an example of Wikipedia's coverage of important subjects with great photos. —
Vanderdecken∴∫ξφ 12:12, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Delist. This image is in NO way historically important, the exact same shot can be taken by anyone else any day of the week. Historic this ain't. --
Dante Alighieri |
Talk 19:29, 1 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Yes, but can that shot be uploaded to Wikipedia any day of the week? —
Vanderdecken∴∫ξφ 13:33, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
Anyone who visits the museum and happens to take a photo of it can, yeah. I should have done so when I was there but taking a photo of every significant object in the museum wasn't my priority at the time.
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs) 14:08, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply
It CAN be, but that doesn't mean it WILL be. But that's irrelevant anyway. The point is, your whole argument is specious. A "historically important" image is one where it is impossible to replace or reproduce. The 1906 Earthquake panorama at the top of the page is an example. No one can take that photo anymore. This photo here is easily and trivially replaced, hence the picture is not historically important. The SUBJECT is historically important, to be sure, but (as I've stated) the flaws in the picture make it inelligible (IMO) for FP status. --
Dante Alighieri |
Talk 18:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)reply