Comment This is the first image of the first shuttle mission. Considering the date (1981) and historical value of it, it deserves FP statue. BUT, the graininess is way too much. I tried to reduce it with Photoshop but it caused other problems (such as blur on some very grainy parts). Maybe Fir can give it a try. I might retry. Although there is much better images of shuttle launch of course, this one has a historical importance though.
Arad02:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose replacement with edit, the edit blurred out a lot of detail while trying to get rid of the grain--the top of the shuttle looks shiny smooth and the lettering on the wing is blurry. It reminds me of a hyper-retouched model with shiny smooth skin.
Night Gyr (
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00:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment edit 2. I saw Fir's work and thought it looked more noisey in places, and that the artificial sharpening was overdone. So, I gave a try and reducing the noise.--
Andrew c20:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep Original - Per historical exemption. Flaws aren't that bad. Edit 1 loses resolution and manages to blur the shuttle too much. Edit 2 is overly retouched and the clouds are very fake looking. --
Dgies05:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)reply
I agree that my edit made the clouds look weird, so I have reuploaded an earlier version that retains some of the 'helpful' noise in the clouds. --
Andrew c16:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment This is the first image of the first shuttle mission. Considering the date (1981) and historical value of it, it deserves FP statue. BUT, the graininess is way too much. I tried to reduce it with Photoshop but it caused other problems (such as blur on some very grainy parts). Maybe Fir can give it a try. I might retry. Although there is much better images of shuttle launch of course, this one has a historical importance though.
Arad02:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Oppose replacement with edit, the edit blurred out a lot of detail while trying to get rid of the grain--the top of the shuttle looks shiny smooth and the lettering on the wing is blurry. It reminds me of a hyper-retouched model with shiny smooth skin.
Night Gyr (
talk/
Oy)
00:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Comment edit 2. I saw Fir's work and thought it looked more noisey in places, and that the artificial sharpening was overdone. So, I gave a try and reducing the noise.--
Andrew c20:28, 16 December 2006 (UTC)reply
Keep Original - Per historical exemption. Flaws aren't that bad. Edit 1 loses resolution and manages to blur the shuttle too much. Edit 2 is overly retouched and the clouds are very fake looking. --
Dgies05:17, 19 December 2006 (UTC)reply
I agree that my edit made the clouds look weird, so I have reuploaded an earlier version that retains some of the 'helpful' noise in the clouds. --
Andrew c16:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)reply