Rocoto Flower
- Reason
- Nice close-up with sharp colorful details that illustrate a characteristic rocoto flower.
- Articles this image appears in
- Rocoto
- Creator
- Luciano Roth Coelho
- Support as nominator — self. nom. Luca 08:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- The edges of the petals are out of focus and blurry. Also, the stylus and stigma at the middle of the flower is also out of focus. Since the flower is commonly available, advise a different snap for FPC. -- Kalyan 09:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - it's a very good, beautiful image, but the depth of field isn't very good. Vanished user talk 12:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose Blurry. 8thstar 15:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- weak oppose per Vanished user. Try it again with a higher aperture, possibly on a tripod. Other than the DOF it is a nice shot. Cacophony 15:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose. Smaller aperture will help. I'm curious what settings you used--lens/focal length, aperture, etc. -- Peter 16:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Comment from author Thanks guys, I'm a newbie in terms of photography and this picture looked really good to me at first. But now I see that I exagerated on the aperture, trying to get rid of a very polluted background. When my plants start flowering nicely again, I'll try it with a smaller aperture. This picture was taken with a Nikon D50 and Nikkor 18-55mm kit lenses. The F number was 5.6, exposure time 1/124 sec. and focal length of 55mm. Yes, I know I should get macro lenses for this kind of picture ;)
- I'm glad to hear that you're taking the criticism in that spirit, as we FPC regulars frequently tear very serviceable images a new bunghole for the good of the project. If you showed me this image in real life, I would be delighted and amazed at your abilities! I have a friend who is a professional chef, and I've often mused on how she might serve me a meal at her restaurant which I would consider so-so or even bad, but that same meal served to me at her home would have me raving about her talents. -- TotoBaggins 22:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- +1... Hey, my SLR's a D50 too, though I haven't used the kit lens in a good long while. Yeah, for macro shots like this (aside from a macro lens being preferable as you said), f/5.6 is generally far too large an aperture--something more in the f/11-f/16 or so range (even smaller for longer focal lengths, like Nikon's 105mm macro) should get you the DOF you're looking for. --
Peter
03:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree, max aperture you should be using is probably f/13 - beyond that sharpness is too far degraded due to diffraction of light IMO --
Fir0002
07:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oh please, Fir0002, what do you know about macro photography--oh wait. ;) But seriously, thanks for the comment. I don't own a macro lens yet; I know shallow DOF is a concern at too wide an aperture and diffraction at too narrow, ideal being f/8-f/11 for general shots (not necessarily macro), but I figured you'd have to get a pretty high f-stop to compensate for reduced DOF at that focal length. I'd love to see the shooting data on some of your FP's and other shots, until I do get a macro lens and start putting it to work myself. -- Peter 23:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree, max aperture you should be using is probably f/13 - beyond that sharpness is too far degraded due to diffraction of light IMO --
Fir0002
07:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Not promoted MER-C 03:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Rocoto Flower
- Reason
- Nice close-up with sharp colorful details that illustrate a characteristic rocoto flower.
- Articles this image appears in
- Rocoto
- Creator
- Luciano Roth Coelho
- Support as nominator — self. nom. Luca 08:56, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- The edges of the petals are out of focus and blurry. Also, the stylus and stigma at the middle of the flower is also out of focus. Since the flower is commonly available, advise a different snap for FPC. -- Kalyan 09:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Weak oppose - it's a very good, beautiful image, but the depth of field isn't very good. Vanished user talk 12:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose Blurry. 8thstar 15:14, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- weak oppose per Vanished user. Try it again with a higher aperture, possibly on a tripod. Other than the DOF it is a nice shot. Cacophony 15:39, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oppose. Smaller aperture will help. I'm curious what settings you used--lens/focal length, aperture, etc. -- Peter 16:31, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Comment from author Thanks guys, I'm a newbie in terms of photography and this picture looked really good to me at first. But now I see that I exagerated on the aperture, trying to get rid of a very polluted background. When my plants start flowering nicely again, I'll try it with a smaller aperture. This picture was taken with a Nikon D50 and Nikkor 18-55mm kit lenses. The F number was 5.6, exposure time 1/124 sec. and focal length of 55mm. Yes, I know I should get macro lenses for this kind of picture ;)
- I'm glad to hear that you're taking the criticism in that spirit, as we FPC regulars frequently tear very serviceable images a new bunghole for the good of the project. If you showed me this image in real life, I would be delighted and amazed at your abilities! I have a friend who is a professional chef, and I've often mused on how she might serve me a meal at her restaurant which I would consider so-so or even bad, but that same meal served to me at her home would have me raving about her talents. -- TotoBaggins 22:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
- +1... Hey, my SLR's a D50 too, though I haven't used the kit lens in a good long while. Yeah, for macro shots like this (aside from a macro lens being preferable as you said), f/5.6 is generally far too large an aperture--something more in the f/11-f/16 or so range (even smaller for longer focal lengths, like Nikon's 105mm macro) should get you the DOF you're looking for. --
Peter
03:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree, max aperture you should be using is probably f/13 - beyond that sharpness is too far degraded due to diffraction of light IMO --
Fir0002
07:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Oh please, Fir0002, what do you know about macro photography--oh wait. ;) But seriously, thanks for the comment. I don't own a macro lens yet; I know shallow DOF is a concern at too wide an aperture and diffraction at too narrow, ideal being f/8-f/11 for general shots (not necessarily macro), but I figured you'd have to get a pretty high f-stop to compensate for reduced DOF at that focal length. I'd love to see the shooting data on some of your FP's and other shots, until I do get a macro lens and start putting it to work myself. -- Peter 23:04, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- I disagree, max aperture you should be using is probably f/13 - beyond that sharpness is too far degraded due to diffraction of light IMO --
Fir0002
07:20, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Not promoted MER-C 03:55, 17 July 2007 (UTC)