A beautiful watercolour, and a stunning image of the Niagara river before it was more developed, relatively early in the settlement of this part of Canada.
Colours adjusted using white background the LoC lays its images against. Minor cleanup of obvious dust, etc, where I thought it justified. As this is the only copy, I have kept the restoration fairly limited. Whilst it's certainly possible to remove the paper yellowing (e.g.
File:Edward Walsh - Queenstown, Upper Canada on the Niagara (a.k.a. Queenston, Ontario) age removed.jpg), I did not think it justified in this case, as the image is two centuries old.
Comment As an interesting aside, I'm reasonably certain the high land to the upper right of the image is Queenston Heights, where the
Battle of Queenston Heights was fought a few years later.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 20:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)reply
The high land is in the correct location — I think you're right. Perhaps it should be added to that page? --
Misaligned (
talk) 07:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I've been pondering that, but am not sure which section to add it in.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 13:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Support - A strong candidate. The restoration is crisper and the details show up better. Strong historic (and thus encyclopedic) value. Obviously meets size requirements.
Ottava Rima (
talk) 02:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Comment. Looks like it needs perspective correction based on the horizontal and vertical lines. How was it captured? I assume a photograph of it?
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs) 11:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)reply
There's really no guarantee that a 1805 image will have perfect straightness in the first place, but I believe it's a special photographic device for documents and images at the LoC .
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 16:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I'd go with that, most likely a rostrum camera. Looking at the hand-cut mat, it's probably down to the way the border was painted. --
mikaultalk 08:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Support desaturated: I prefer it de-yellowed. Good work.
Maedin\talk 06:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Alternative posted per request on
WT:FPC.
MER-C 06:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Desaturated has a specific meaning, and this is not it: This was a yellow-blue balance adjustment. I've fixed MER-C's wording to reflect this.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 20:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Support original only - it's tempting to go for the "cleaner" look and the alt is certainly very attractive, but I think the arbitrary colour shift has made (what I take to be) neutral greys – particularly those bottom left – look too cold and artificial. Correcting for scanner casts is always good, but without knowing how the painting looked before it faded, we can't be sure these age-corrected colours are anything like the original hues. --
mikaultalk 08:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
And I agree. But I figured it was better to show the possibility I don't prefer, as it is a reasonable choice. But I'll tweak said thing a little to reflect your comments, as I had originally made it as a simple quick demonstration, and if it's going to be voted on...
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 20:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Support. Per explanation of uneven borders. Good work.
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs) 08:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Edward Walsh - Queenstown, Upper Canada on the Niagara (a.k.a. Queenston, Ontario).jpg --wadester16 03:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply
A beautiful watercolour, and a stunning image of the Niagara river before it was more developed, relatively early in the settlement of this part of Canada.
Colours adjusted using white background the LoC lays its images against. Minor cleanup of obvious dust, etc, where I thought it justified. As this is the only copy, I have kept the restoration fairly limited. Whilst it's certainly possible to remove the paper yellowing (e.g.
File:Edward Walsh - Queenstown, Upper Canada on the Niagara (a.k.a. Queenston, Ontario) age removed.jpg), I did not think it justified in this case, as the image is two centuries old.
Comment As an interesting aside, I'm reasonably certain the high land to the upper right of the image is Queenston Heights, where the
Battle of Queenston Heights was fought a few years later.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 20:02, 5 July 2009 (UTC)reply
The high land is in the correct location — I think you're right. Perhaps it should be added to that page? --
Misaligned (
talk) 07:03, 6 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I've been pondering that, but am not sure which section to add it in.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 13:46, 6 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Support - A strong candidate. The restoration is crisper and the details show up better. Strong historic (and thus encyclopedic) value. Obviously meets size requirements.
Ottava Rima (
talk) 02:54, 7 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Comment. Looks like it needs perspective correction based on the horizontal and vertical lines. How was it captured? I assume a photograph of it?
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs) 11:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)reply
There's really no guarantee that a 1805 image will have perfect straightness in the first place, but I believe it's a special photographic device for documents and images at the LoC .
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 16:08, 7 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I'd go with that, most likely a rostrum camera. Looking at the hand-cut mat, it's probably down to the way the border was painted. --
mikaultalk 08:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Support desaturated: I prefer it de-yellowed. Good work.
Maedin\talk 06:49, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Alternative posted per request on
WT:FPC.
MER-C 06:45, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Desaturated has a specific meaning, and this is not it: This was a yellow-blue balance adjustment. I've fixed MER-C's wording to reflect this.
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 20:39, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Support original only - it's tempting to go for the "cleaner" look and the alt is certainly very attractive, but I think the arbitrary colour shift has made (what I take to be) neutral greys – particularly those bottom left – look too cold and artificial. Correcting for scanner casts is always good, but without knowing how the painting looked before it faded, we can't be sure these age-corrected colours are anything like the original hues. --
mikaultalk 08:11, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
And I agree. But I figured it was better to show the possibility I don't prefer, as it is a reasonable choice. But I'll tweak said thing a little to reflect your comments, as I had originally made it as a simple quick demonstration, and if it's going to be voted on...
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 20:41, 8 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Support. Per explanation of uneven borders. Good work.
Diliff |
(Talk)(Contribs) 08:08, 9 July 2009 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Edward Walsh - Queenstown, Upper Canada on the Niagara (a.k.a. Queenston, Ontario).jpg --wadester16 03:39, 13 July 2009 (UTC)reply