Original - H.M.S. Pinafore was the fourth collaboration between
Gilbert and Sullivan, and proved spectacularly successful on both sides of the Atlantic. However, American copyright law of the time did not respect British copyright, and most of the productions in America - probably including the one here advertised - were unauthorised and gave no income to the creators. In order to attempt to gain American copyright on their next opera, The Pirates of Penzance, the entire company was taken to
New York City in order to stage its official première.Edit 1 - strong sharpening of the text, more weak sharpening of other parts.
Reason
A fine engraving, advertising an early American production, for an opera where the American popularity and the unauthorised nature of most of said productions were particularly notable: This led directly to their next opera,
The Pirates of Penzance, premièring in America. And, yes, I know the caption is a little long. So sue me =).
Weak Support. Nobody seems to be participating in this discussion, so I will :). The scan is not superb, but the large size of the image makes up for this. It illustrates Gilbert and Sullivan's famous comic opera well. NauticaShades 00:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Good job with the sharpening. NauticaShades 02:12, 14 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The text, in particularly, is distractingly blurry, and it's not that big (pretty small for a modern scan).--
ragesoss (
talk) 14:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
It is a lithograph, so it's never going to be perfectly sharp, but I do think the Library of Congress also added some blurriness. Luckily, the Sharpen tool works very well with lithography, so I can force out some sharpness. =)
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 18:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
The sharpening is a major improvement. I'm still not convinced this is among the top tier of images on Wikipedia (and G&S is already very well represented in FPs). Neutral.--
ragesoss (
talk) 22:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Gilbert is well-represented, but not his collaborations with Sullivan. For G&S we have only the lead images for
Thespis (opera) and
Trial by Jury, to my knowledge. And, yes, I fully intend to try and get an FP for all 14 G&S operas. =)
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 22:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Not promoted (quorum not met)
MER-C 10:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Original - H.M.S. Pinafore was the fourth collaboration between
Gilbert and Sullivan, and proved spectacularly successful on both sides of the Atlantic. However, American copyright law of the time did not respect British copyright, and most of the productions in America - probably including the one here advertised - were unauthorised and gave no income to the creators. In order to attempt to gain American copyright on their next opera, The Pirates of Penzance, the entire company was taken to
New York City in order to stage its official première.Edit 1 - strong sharpening of the text, more weak sharpening of other parts.
Reason
A fine engraving, advertising an early American production, for an opera where the American popularity and the unauthorised nature of most of said productions were particularly notable: This led directly to their next opera,
The Pirates of Penzance, premièring in America. And, yes, I know the caption is a little long. So sue me =).
Weak Support. Nobody seems to be participating in this discussion, so I will :). The scan is not superb, but the large size of the image makes up for this. It illustrates Gilbert and Sullivan's famous comic opera well. NauticaShades 00:38, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Good job with the sharpening. NauticaShades 02:12, 14 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Oppose. The text, in particularly, is distractingly blurry, and it's not that big (pretty small for a modern scan).--
ragesoss (
talk) 14:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
It is a lithograph, so it's never going to be perfectly sharp, but I do think the Library of Congress also added some blurriness. Luckily, the Sharpen tool works very well with lithography, so I can force out some sharpness. =)
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 18:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
The sharpening is a major improvement. I'm still not convinced this is among the top tier of images on Wikipedia (and G&S is already very well represented in FPs). Neutral.--
ragesoss (
talk) 22:56, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Gilbert is well-represented, but not his collaborations with Sullivan. For G&S we have only the lead images for
Thespis (opera) and
Trial by Jury, to my knowledge. And, yes, I fully intend to try and get an FP for all 14 G&S operas. =)
Shoemaker's Holiday (
talk) 22:58, 13 June 2008 (UTC)reply
Not promoted (quorum not met)
MER-C 10:31, 19 June 2008 (UTC)reply