Voting period ends on 27 Jan 2012 at 02:53:45 (UTC)
Original – Red-necked Stint (Calidris ruficollis) winter plumage, Marion Bay, Tasmania, Australia
Reason
I'm still not sure why a big flock (~80) of these stint allowed me to approach so closely whilst feeding without being bothered. They have always been much shyer on other attempts. I guess they were hungry after a long migration. It was a cool experience anyway. This shot has good lighting, great detail and a nice perspective.
Support per nom; supersedes currently featured image. --
jjron (
talk) 13:12, 17 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Oppose This is by now an ancient stickling point, but I prefer to see the whole of the bird for encyclopaedic purposes, and since the
existing FP does show the feet, ...
Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (
talk) 19:26, 17 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Well, to be fair, the existing one shows roughly half of one foot, rather than 'showing the feet'. I didn't see that as much advantage given the other pluses with this one. --
jjron (
talk) 03:24, 18 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Sharpness & resolution are better. I'd also suggest that the non-white background makes the bird itself stand out better. Nikthestoned 12:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)reply
And given
you opposed the original for far more detailed reasons, I thought you could have told us anyway (note: I'm assuming you're the same user as
User:Papa Lima Whiskey; if not, my apologies, but on the contrary, if not then you shouldn't be using such a similar username). --
jjron (
talk) 13:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)reply
You've given me "sharpness and resolution", but that doesn't tell me what additional EV you think it confers in the species article.
Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (
talk) 02:05, 20 January 2012 (UTC)reply
As far as the feet in water, the first words of the article are: "The Red-necked Stint (Calidris ruficollis) is a small migratory wader.", FWIW.
JJ Harrison (
talk) 08:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Which doesn't stop us from having a picture where, in the act of wading, one of the feet is visible above the waterline.
Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (
talk) 13:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Nothing stops us from improving on any of the current FPs. The question isn't necessarily how this photo could be perfected, merely whether it's satisfactory as it is.
Ðiliff«»(Talk) 15:58, 23 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Support (& replace original) as per above. Nikthestoned 12:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Nik, the other one is up for delist
here if you agree with the replace. --
jjron (
talk) 13:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Support. As usual, easily good enough for FP. Not bothered at all by the cut off feet (unless it's shown that the feet are important for identification) as it's taken in what appears to be its natural environment.
Ðiliff«»(Talk) 13:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC
Support --
Fir0002 04:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Support - yeah, animals very seldom concern themselves with showing the photographer their entire bodies in the wild. The goal should be a high-quality and accurate representation of what the bird actually does.
Juliancolton (
talk) 16:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Calidris ruficollis - Marion Bay.jpg --
Makeemlighter (
talk) 22:28, 27 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Voting period ends on 27 Jan 2012 at 02:53:45 (UTC)
Original – Red-necked Stint (Calidris ruficollis) winter plumage, Marion Bay, Tasmania, Australia
Reason
I'm still not sure why a big flock (~80) of these stint allowed me to approach so closely whilst feeding without being bothered. They have always been much shyer on other attempts. I guess they were hungry after a long migration. It was a cool experience anyway. This shot has good lighting, great detail and a nice perspective.
Support per nom; supersedes currently featured image. --
jjron (
talk) 13:12, 17 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Oppose This is by now an ancient stickling point, but I prefer to see the whole of the bird for encyclopaedic purposes, and since the
existing FP does show the feet, ...
Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (
talk) 19:26, 17 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Well, to be fair, the existing one shows roughly half of one foot, rather than 'showing the feet'. I didn't see that as much advantage given the other pluses with this one. --
jjron (
talk) 03:24, 18 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Sharpness & resolution are better. I'd also suggest that the non-white background makes the bird itself stand out better. Nikthestoned 12:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)reply
And given
you opposed the original for far more detailed reasons, I thought you could have told us anyway (note: I'm assuming you're the same user as
User:Papa Lima Whiskey; if not, my apologies, but on the contrary, if not then you shouldn't be using such a similar username). --
jjron (
talk) 13:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)reply
You've given me "sharpness and resolution", but that doesn't tell me what additional EV you think it confers in the species article.
Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (
talk) 02:05, 20 January 2012 (UTC)reply
As far as the feet in water, the first words of the article are: "The Red-necked Stint (Calidris ruficollis) is a small migratory wader.", FWIW.
JJ Harrison (
talk) 08:05, 22 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Which doesn't stop us from having a picture where, in the act of wading, one of the feet is visible above the waterline.
Papa Lima Whiskey 2 (
talk) 13:59, 23 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Nothing stops us from improving on any of the current FPs. The question isn't necessarily how this photo could be perfected, merely whether it's satisfactory as it is.
Ðiliff«»(Talk) 15:58, 23 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Support (& replace original) as per above. Nikthestoned 12:48, 19 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Nik, the other one is up for delist
here if you agree with the replace. --
jjron (
talk) 13:03, 19 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Support. As usual, easily good enough for FP. Not bothered at all by the cut off feet (unless it's shown that the feet are important for identification) as it's taken in what appears to be its natural environment.
Ðiliff«»(Talk) 13:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC
Support --
Fir0002 04:38, 27 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Support - yeah, animals very seldom concern themselves with showing the photographer their entire bodies in the wild. The goal should be a high-quality and accurate representation of what the bird actually does.
Juliancolton (
talk) 16:37, 27 January 2012 (UTC)reply
Promoted File:Calidris ruficollis - Marion Bay.jpg --
Makeemlighter (
talk) 22:28, 27 January 2012 (UTC)reply