Comment: I'm confused on a couple of levels here. Firstly the nominator self-identifies as the same individual as the creating account, whih was blocked as a sock of a disruptive sockmaster - however that sort of thing isn't something I could do, so it might be that it poses no problem on this gorund. Secondly I am intrigued as to how the creator/nominator has the copyright of the appropriate file. Is it a real scan (it won't play on my machine)? If so (or indeed not) could this be clarified? Grandiose(
me,
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Answer Thank you for your comment. You are right, I did a mistake using my universal account name on WP (moroder), which has been banned on the English WP as a sockpuppet, I have nothing to do with. Therefore my correct account I use on the English WP is
Moroderen. I'm not sure I understand you correctly in regard of the second point. The videoclip was generated on my ultrasound machine (GE E8) where I scanned the patient and made the diagnosis of spina bifida (see also the
scan of the fetal head). I exported the clip as a avi file and converted in the theora.ogv format by "Miro video converter". Does this answer your question? Best regards --
Moroderen (
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07:31, 24 September 2012 (UTC)reply
More or less, yes. But I'm still unclear, if you are an employee, over whether you actually own the copyright in this case. The work is presumably something you did as part of your job, which can be enough to make the copyright corporate. Has this ever been discussed before? Grandiose(
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contribs) 21:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)reply
I am not an employee, I am self employed and own 100% of the ultrasound machine. I do not believe the patient has some copyright on the image, which does not bear her name, but she gave me a verbal consent for publication --
Moroderen (
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21:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)reply
I assume you were asking me, so I corrected the indentation. I can't see the spina bifida in the utrasound, but then again, I don't know what to look for. In no way do I think fetal cases do not count. Regardless, I am changing my vote, as I see a different way to approach this now. --
WingtipvorteXPTT∅20:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Change my vote to Weak Support, as there is a section in the article about detecting the condition while in the womb, to which this file adds a lot of EV. I would support fully if the untrained eye (me) could easily spot spina bifida in the ultrasound. As it is, I can't really tell the difference from any other ultrasound. But maybe that is just me. --
WingtipvorteXPTT∅20:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)reply
I can't speak for untrained eyes, but it's plainly visible in the thumbnail. The lighter parts in the centre is the body of the fetus, which is facing the bottom of the picture. The line of white spots is the spine, and the anomaly is the lump in the back
circled in red. --
101.109.210.60 (
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07:50, 30 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Comment: I'm confused on a couple of levels here. Firstly the nominator self-identifies as the same individual as the creating account, whih was blocked as a sock of a disruptive sockmaster - however that sort of thing isn't something I could do, so it might be that it poses no problem on this gorund. Secondly I am intrigued as to how the creator/nominator has the copyright of the appropriate file. Is it a real scan (it won't play on my machine)? If so (or indeed not) could this be clarified? Grandiose(
me,
talk,
contribs) 20:17, 23 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Answer Thank you for your comment. You are right, I did a mistake using my universal account name on WP (moroder), which has been banned on the English WP as a sockpuppet, I have nothing to do with. Therefore my correct account I use on the English WP is
Moroderen. I'm not sure I understand you correctly in regard of the second point. The videoclip was generated on my ultrasound machine (GE E8) where I scanned the patient and made the diagnosis of spina bifida (see also the
scan of the fetal head). I exported the clip as a avi file and converted in the theora.ogv format by "Miro video converter". Does this answer your question? Best regards --
Moroderen (
talk)
07:31, 24 September 2012 (UTC)reply
More or less, yes. But I'm still unclear, if you are an employee, over whether you actually own the copyright in this case. The work is presumably something you did as part of your job, which can be enough to make the copyright corporate. Has this ever been discussed before? Grandiose(
me,
talk,
contribs) 21:14, 24 September 2012 (UTC)reply
I am not an employee, I am self employed and own 100% of the ultrasound machine. I do not believe the patient has some copyright on the image, which does not bear her name, but she gave me a verbal consent for publication --
Moroderen (
talk)
21:29, 24 September 2012 (UTC)reply
I assume you were asking me, so I corrected the indentation. I can't see the spina bifida in the utrasound, but then again, I don't know what to look for. In no way do I think fetal cases do not count. Regardless, I am changing my vote, as I see a different way to approach this now. --
WingtipvorteXPTT∅20:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)reply
Change my vote to Weak Support, as there is a section in the article about detecting the condition while in the womb, to which this file adds a lot of EV. I would support fully if the untrained eye (me) could easily spot spina bifida in the ultrasound. As it is, I can't really tell the difference from any other ultrasound. But maybe that is just me. --
WingtipvorteXPTT∅20:59, 27 September 2012 (UTC)reply
I can't speak for untrained eyes, but it's plainly visible in the thumbnail. The lighter parts in the centre is the body of the fetus, which is facing the bottom of the picture. The line of white spots is the spine, and the anomaly is the lump in the back
circled in red. --
101.109.210.60 (
talk)
07:50, 30 September 2012 (UTC)reply