- Reason
- The best picture of Carnegie on the project, by far. This image was taken in 1913, but it is top quality of images from that time period. It also features an extremely encyclopediuc subject, the great Andrew Carnegie.
- Articles this image appears in
- Andrew Carnegie, 1902, Carnegie Mellon University, Homestead Strike, Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs, Historical timeline of events in Hamilton, Ontario, List of Sinfonians, Wealthy historical figures 2007, Wealthy historical figures 2006, History of private equity and venture capital, Early history of private equity
- Creator
- Marceau of New York
- Support as nominator ---- Lord Sunday 14:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support per nom. (Note: the LoC version at http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3c00000/3c01000/3c01700/3c01767v.jpg has a different crop and includes a copyright symbol and the company's logo.) -- KFP ( talk | contribs) 16:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional oppose Executed with enough skill to remove the copyright notice, but no attempt at restoration of numerous obvious scratches, etc. Some of these defects interact with the subject's face, which is a problem. Also the uploader chose a significantly lower resolution than necessary. The original is a 12MB .tif. I've done a rough approximation of the crop, converted to .jpg, and uploaded for comparison. See Image:Carnegie.jpg, which has nearly six times the amount of data in the nominated image. This is a competent portrait, but not among the best of its type for the period or even innovative: good formal portrait photography of this setting and style goes all the way back to the daguerrotype era, 70 years before this example was taken. If anything, this is a throwback. Enough EV to pass FPC if the original image is restored with sufficient care. Suggest suspending the nomination. Durova Charge! 17:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Question Is his worth 2.98 billion dollars or 298.3 billion as the article suggests?
Muhammad
(talk)
17:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- 298.3 billion is correct, I believe.
Spencer
T♦
C
00:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's not a typo, but it's based on rather generous calculation (by Forbes) of the value of U.S. Steel at its height. Another way to figure it is this--he gave away everything he had, and the gifts amounted to about $380 million from 1901 onward, which would be about $9 billion now I think. Chick Bowen 00:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- 298.3 billion is correct, I believe.
Spencer
T♦
C
00:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I completely agree with Durova. I also think enc. is lowered, that because Carnegie's left shoulder is blended into the shadows. Spencer T♦ C 00:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Until flaws (white spots and scratches) are fixed. Clegs ( talk) 14:44, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- withdraw - I think i'll leave this to durova to fix. --
Lord
Sunday
18:21, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately my hands are full with other commitments. But if you'd like to get a little coaching and collaboration I'd be glad to help via Skype. E-mail me for my Skype username. Best wishes, Durova Charge! 22:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Reason
- The best picture of Carnegie on the project, by far. This image was taken in 1913, but it is top quality of images from that time period. It also features an extremely encyclopediuc subject, the great Andrew Carnegie.
- Articles this image appears in
- Andrew Carnegie, 1902, Carnegie Mellon University, Homestead Strike, Carnegie Council for Ethics in International Affairs, Historical timeline of events in Hamilton, Ontario, List of Sinfonians, Wealthy historical figures 2007, Wealthy historical figures 2006, History of private equity and venture capital, Early history of private equity
- Creator
- Marceau of New York
- Support as nominator ---- Lord Sunday 14:07, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support per nom. (Note: the LoC version at http://memory.loc.gov/service/pnp/cph/3c00000/3c01000/3c01700/3c01767v.jpg has a different crop and includes a copyright symbol and the company's logo.) -- KFP ( talk | contribs) 16:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Conditional oppose Executed with enough skill to remove the copyright notice, but no attempt at restoration of numerous obvious scratches, etc. Some of these defects interact with the subject's face, which is a problem. Also the uploader chose a significantly lower resolution than necessary. The original is a 12MB .tif. I've done a rough approximation of the crop, converted to .jpg, and uploaded for comparison. See Image:Carnegie.jpg, which has nearly six times the amount of data in the nominated image. This is a competent portrait, but not among the best of its type for the period or even innovative: good formal portrait photography of this setting and style goes all the way back to the daguerrotype era, 70 years before this example was taken. If anything, this is a throwback. Enough EV to pass FPC if the original image is restored with sufficient care. Suggest suspending the nomination. Durova Charge! 17:24, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- Question Is his worth 2.98 billion dollars or 298.3 billion as the article suggests?
Muhammad
(talk)
17:41, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
- 298.3 billion is correct, I believe.
Spencer
T♦
C
00:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- It's not a typo, but it's based on rather generous calculation (by Forbes) of the value of U.S. Steel at its height. Another way to figure it is this--he gave away everything he had, and the gifts amounted to about $380 million from 1901 onward, which would be about $9 billion now I think. Chick Bowen 00:40, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- 298.3 billion is correct, I believe.
Spencer
T♦
C
00:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- I completely agree with Durova. I also think enc. is lowered, that because Carnegie's left shoulder is blended into the shadows. Spencer T♦ C 00:28, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose Until flaws (white spots and scratches) are fixed. Clegs ( talk) 14:44, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- withdraw - I think i'll leave this to durova to fix. --
Lord
Sunday
18:21, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
- Unfortunately my hands are full with other commitments. But if you'd like to get a little coaching and collaboration I'd be glad to help via Skype. E-mail me for my Skype username. Best wishes, Durova Charge! 22:06, 24 August 2008 (UTC)