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This particular article seems to have been promoted without careful scrutiny as to whether it was really the best possible article that could be written on the subject. Over the last few weeks, or so, myself and a number of other commentators have expressed our dismay that this article was promoted and continued to be listed as "one of the best articles" of Wikipedia when it is so poor. In particular, it lacks any sense of balance with regards to the subject and I have placed the POV template tag on the article to indicate that the article is suffering from a conflict over the way it is discussing the subject, giving greater weight to Christian devotional literature over scholarly publications, and ignoring context of the article. While working on trying to fix issues with the article, the main author and self-nominator of the featured article has not been entirely helpful in acknowledging or addressing these issues in a straightforward manner.
I, in particular, believe that the article lacks the following:
1b) Very little context for this article is provided and, indeed, there seems to be significant resistance to providing this context in the text of the article.
1d) Because the article over-emphasizes Christian opinions and does not give the proper WP:PROMINENCE to the two scholarly monographs on the subject of the book that are being used, this article is not neutral.
I also think it is important that we consider whether or not the article was written in a competent way, that is, I think the author has done an admirable job jumping through the hoops required to navigate the bureaucracy at Wikipedia, but there does not seem to be an outcome that a high-quality article has resulted. This is simply not a particularly good article, and I question whether Wikipedia guidelines as stringent as they are would ever allow it to become a good article.
I am not alone in this evaluation. Others have expressed similar concerns and while I was hoping we could come to some conclusion quickly through normal talkpage processes, it has become apparent that this is not going to be possible in a timely manner. The article needs help. The issues need to be addressed or, I'm afraid, I think we should move towards removing it from the list of featured articles.
jps ( talk) 18:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Speedy close Agree completely, I was about to say exactly the same thing. Aside from being insulting to people like myself and Ian Rose (we don't support poor articles for FA), I really detest this sort of ordeal for FA contributors, its bad enough to put a lot of work into a GA and have people kicking you in the teeth but to go through FA and then have somebody do this within a very short period is not on. I'm sure that if certain sources have been overlooked and your concerns are valid talk page discussion and article improvement is the way forward. it's funny how all these people who think the article is shoddy were not around at the FAC.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
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This particular article seems to have been promoted without careful scrutiny as to whether it was really the best possible article that could be written on the subject. Over the last few weeks, or so, myself and a number of other commentators have expressed our dismay that this article was promoted and continued to be listed as "one of the best articles" of Wikipedia when it is so poor. In particular, it lacks any sense of balance with regards to the subject and I have placed the POV template tag on the article to indicate that the article is suffering from a conflict over the way it is discussing the subject, giving greater weight to Christian devotional literature over scholarly publications, and ignoring context of the article. While working on trying to fix issues with the article, the main author and self-nominator of the featured article has not been entirely helpful in acknowledging or addressing these issues in a straightforward manner.
I, in particular, believe that the article lacks the following:
1b) Very little context for this article is provided and, indeed, there seems to be significant resistance to providing this context in the text of the article.
1d) Because the article over-emphasizes Christian opinions and does not give the proper WP:PROMINENCE to the two scholarly monographs on the subject of the book that are being used, this article is not neutral.
I also think it is important that we consider whether or not the article was written in a competent way, that is, I think the author has done an admirable job jumping through the hoops required to navigate the bureaucracy at Wikipedia, but there does not seem to be an outcome that a high-quality article has resulted. This is simply not a particularly good article, and I question whether Wikipedia guidelines as stringent as they are would ever allow it to become a good article.
I am not alone in this evaluation. Others have expressed similar concerns and while I was hoping we could come to some conclusion quickly through normal talkpage processes, it has become apparent that this is not going to be possible in a timely manner. The article needs help. The issues need to be addressed or, I'm afraid, I think we should move towards removing it from the list of featured articles.
jps ( talk) 18:32, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
Speedy close Agree completely, I was about to say exactly the same thing. Aside from being insulting to people like myself and Ian Rose (we don't support poor articles for FA), I really detest this sort of ordeal for FA contributors, its bad enough to put a lot of work into a GA and have people kicking you in the teeth but to go through FA and then have somebody do this within a very short period is not on. I'm sure that if certain sources have been overlooked and your concerns are valid talk page discussion and article improvement is the way forward. it's funny how all these people who think the article is shoddy were not around at the FAC.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:04, 10 September 2013 (UTC)