The article was procedurally kept by Nikkimaria ( talk) 14:11, 10 July 2021 (UTC). reply
I am nominating this featured article for review because a long standing RfC discussion, which has now been long awaiting closure, has resulted in edits which mean that it loses (imo) many of the characteristics of an FA (to which status I was amongst those active in bringing it). I would ask that the FA status be removed for the present, and then the article can then be resubmitted for FA when the discussion is resolved (whatever the outcome). The article gets >1m. views per year, and should not I think be presented as an FA in these circumstances, as it is not representative of the WP standards for such articles. Smerus ( talk) 18:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC) reply
I do not seek to use FAR for dispute resolution: it is only that some areas (eg. note 6 in the article) which have been added during the discussion are way out of FA standards, and cannot be adjusted while the RfC is going on without further edit arguing. I specifically asked above for a suspension of FA status, as there seems to be no way of withdrawing the FA standard apart from the review process. But if editors feel that suspension is not possible and FAR should only be moved after RfC resolution, so be it. I just hope in that case that someone will soon take on the task of resolving it. However the RfC is resolved it will need a rewrite. -- Smerus ( talk) 21:12, 17 February 2021 (UTC) reply
Nikkimaria, I guess in the present situation it would be best to hope that the RfC will be soon resolved. In the light of the closing decision the article is then likely to need some rewriting and I will then submit it to FAR in the hope that the revision will still meet FA standards. Best, -- Smerus ( talk) 20:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC) reply
Nikkimaria, there is some (peaceful so far) editing and discussion going on at present in the wake of the RfC. The article needs updating in various other ways, including listing and format of sources etc. I estimate about two weeks to complete this work and to ensure that nothing flares up again. Then it would be helpful if other editors could take a look and be satisfied that it still meets FA. I will post again here when ready. With thanks,-- Smerus ( talk) 22:01, 24 March 2021 (UTC) reply
The article was procedurally kept by Nikkimaria ( talk) 14:11, 10 July 2021 (UTC). reply
I am nominating this featured article for review because a long standing RfC discussion, which has now been long awaiting closure, has resulted in edits which mean that it loses (imo) many of the characteristics of an FA (to which status I was amongst those active in bringing it). I would ask that the FA status be removed for the present, and then the article can then be resubmitted for FA when the discussion is resolved (whatever the outcome). The article gets >1m. views per year, and should not I think be presented as an FA in these circumstances, as it is not representative of the WP standards for such articles. Smerus ( talk) 18:41, 17 February 2021 (UTC) reply
I do not seek to use FAR for dispute resolution: it is only that some areas (eg. note 6 in the article) which have been added during the discussion are way out of FA standards, and cannot be adjusted while the RfC is going on without further edit arguing. I specifically asked above for a suspension of FA status, as there seems to be no way of withdrawing the FA standard apart from the review process. But if editors feel that suspension is not possible and FAR should only be moved after RfC resolution, so be it. I just hope in that case that someone will soon take on the task of resolving it. However the RfC is resolved it will need a rewrite. -- Smerus ( talk) 21:12, 17 February 2021 (UTC) reply
Nikkimaria, I guess in the present situation it would be best to hope that the RfC will be soon resolved. In the light of the closing decision the article is then likely to need some rewriting and I will then submit it to FAR in the hope that the revision will still meet FA standards. Best, -- Smerus ( talk) 20:09, 20 February 2021 (UTC) reply
Nikkimaria, there is some (peaceful so far) editing and discussion going on at present in the wake of the RfC. The article needs updating in various other ways, including listing and format of sources etc. I estimate about two weeks to complete this work and to ensure that nothing flares up again. Then it would be helpful if other editors could take a look and be satisfied that it still meets FA. I will post again here when ready. With thanks,-- Smerus ( talk) 22:01, 24 March 2021 (UTC) reply