This article is about Hurricane Willa's "little brother" which caused some significant damage in the area south of where Willa made landfall. I am nominating this since Dorian's Met has finished and Willa is a co-nom. Hopefully, this can proceed now that my family health emergency is resolved.
NoahTalk12:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Source Review by Nikkimaria
Comment - I'm noticing a lot of the same source formatting inconsistencies that were present in the Willa FAC; could you take a run through and fix things before a full source review?
Nikkimaria (
talk)
23:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The infobox gives a damage figure of $7.05 million for this storm. The text gives that figure as "agricultural losses in the state of Colima from Vicente and Willa" - that's not the same thing.
What makes Regeneracion a high-quality reliable source? Sinembargo?
Regeneracion is the newspaper of
Andrés Manuel López Obrador's political party.
12 It seems to serve a similar purpose to a press secretary for politics, but it covers regular news as well. They also claim to have over
2.7M followers across various social media platforms.
NoahTalk00:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The same source also discusses how they want to make sure information is accessable to all... They state that they are committed to honest and uncensored news, and seek to reform Mexico by reporting on corruption and allowing citizens to formulate their own opinions on topics.
NoahTalk15:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Nikkimaria: Im just going to remove the source as everyone says the government of mexico cant be trusted. I will switch it out for another La Silla Rota article if that is okay with you.
NoahTalk22:19, 24 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: English is not my native language, but I think shorter by the same meaning is better than longer, so how about change "Vicente peaked late on October 20 with winds of 50 mph (85 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 1,002 mbar (29.59 inHg). At its peak, Vicente displayed a sporadic
eye feature in its
central dense overcast...Vicente weakened into a tropical depression early on October 23 and made
landfall near
Playa Azul at 13:30
UTC. After moving ashore, Vicente quickly lost organization and dissipated a few hours later." to "Late on October 20, Vicente displayed a sporadic
eye feature in its
central dense overcast and peaked with winds of 50 mph (85 km/h) also a minimum pressure of 1,002 mbar (29.59 inHg)...Vicente weakened into a tropical depression early on October 23 and made
landfall near
Playa Azul at 13:30
UTC, then quickly lost organization and dissipated a few hours later."?--
Jarodalien (
talk)
08:48, 26 August 2020 (UTC)reply
"Soon after, outflow from the nearby Hurricane Willa caused further weakening. Vicente weakened into a tropical depression early on October 23 and made landfall near Playa Azul at 13:30 UTC. After moving ashore, Vicente quickly lost organization and dissipated a few hours later." I am uncomfortable with this part of the lead. I'd suggest rephrasing to "However, outflow from the nearby Hurricane Willa caused Vicente to weaken into a tropical depression on October 23. After making landfall as a depression near Playa Azul at 13:30 UTC that day, Vicente quickly lost organization and dissipated a few hours later."
No need to mention "Tropical Storm Vicente" at the start of the second paragraph. Just "Vicente" would do.
I would say that Vicente's precursor vortex was "associated", not "affiliated", with the monsoon trough.
The NHC first mentioned that the system had potential for development (missing 'that' in the first line of the second para of the MH).
"proximity of a larger disturbance to the west; this disturbance would eventually become Hurricane Willa." Can be simplified to "proximity of a larger disturbance to the west (which later became Hurricane Willa)."
Lots of
MOS:OVERLINK issues that should be sorted out.
"Schools along the coast of Michoacán were canceled to safeguard everyone from the effects of Vicente and Willa." You can't cancel schools, but you can cancel classes or shut schools.
landfall as a tropical depression in the Mexican state of Michoacán on October 23, 2018, causing deadly mudslides. - could we link some of this, like mudslides and tropical depression. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
talk •
contribs)15:52, 30 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi, as the creator of the image I see a possible problem with the license on this image. SSEC contains an archive of some public domain raw satellite data. I constructed the image myself using the archive data and out of courtesy cite when I use the service. However, the same raw data can be accessed through NOAA and is in the public domain. If I were to use the NOAA source and produce the exact same image would this eliminate any issues?
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20:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)reply
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This article is about Hurricane Willa's "little brother" which caused some significant damage in the area south of where Willa made landfall. I am nominating this since Dorian's Met has finished and Willa is a co-nom. Hopefully, this can proceed now that my family health emergency is resolved.
NoahTalk12:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Source Review by Nikkimaria
Comment - I'm noticing a lot of the same source formatting inconsistencies that were present in the Willa FAC; could you take a run through and fix things before a full source review?
Nikkimaria (
talk)
23:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The infobox gives a damage figure of $7.05 million for this storm. The text gives that figure as "agricultural losses in the state of Colima from Vicente and Willa" - that's not the same thing.
What makes Regeneracion a high-quality reliable source? Sinembargo?
Regeneracion is the newspaper of
Andrés Manuel López Obrador's political party.
12 It seems to serve a similar purpose to a press secretary for politics, but it covers regular news as well. They also claim to have over
2.7M followers across various social media platforms.
NoahTalk00:21, 19 August 2020 (UTC)reply
The same source also discusses how they want to make sure information is accessable to all... They state that they are committed to honest and uncensored news, and seek to reform Mexico by reporting on corruption and allowing citizens to formulate their own opinions on topics.
NoahTalk15:03, 24 August 2020 (UTC)reply
@
Nikkimaria: Im just going to remove the source as everyone says the government of mexico cant be trusted. I will switch it out for another La Silla Rota article if that is okay with you.
NoahTalk22:19, 24 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Comment: English is not my native language, but I think shorter by the same meaning is better than longer, so how about change "Vicente peaked late on October 20 with winds of 50 mph (85 km/h) and a minimum pressure of 1,002 mbar (29.59 inHg). At its peak, Vicente displayed a sporadic
eye feature in its
central dense overcast...Vicente weakened into a tropical depression early on October 23 and made
landfall near
Playa Azul at 13:30
UTC. After moving ashore, Vicente quickly lost organization and dissipated a few hours later." to "Late on October 20, Vicente displayed a sporadic
eye feature in its
central dense overcast and peaked with winds of 50 mph (85 km/h) also a minimum pressure of 1,002 mbar (29.59 inHg)...Vicente weakened into a tropical depression early on October 23 and made
landfall near
Playa Azul at 13:30
UTC, then quickly lost organization and dissipated a few hours later."?--
Jarodalien (
talk)
08:48, 26 August 2020 (UTC)reply
"Soon after, outflow from the nearby Hurricane Willa caused further weakening. Vicente weakened into a tropical depression early on October 23 and made landfall near Playa Azul at 13:30 UTC. After moving ashore, Vicente quickly lost organization and dissipated a few hours later." I am uncomfortable with this part of the lead. I'd suggest rephrasing to "However, outflow from the nearby Hurricane Willa caused Vicente to weaken into a tropical depression on October 23. After making landfall as a depression near Playa Azul at 13:30 UTC that day, Vicente quickly lost organization and dissipated a few hours later."
No need to mention "Tropical Storm Vicente" at the start of the second paragraph. Just "Vicente" would do.
I would say that Vicente's precursor vortex was "associated", not "affiliated", with the monsoon trough.
The NHC first mentioned that the system had potential for development (missing 'that' in the first line of the second para of the MH).
"proximity of a larger disturbance to the west; this disturbance would eventually become Hurricane Willa." Can be simplified to "proximity of a larger disturbance to the west (which later became Hurricane Willa)."
Lots of
MOS:OVERLINK issues that should be sorted out.
"Schools along the coast of Michoacán were canceled to safeguard everyone from the effects of Vicente and Willa." You can't cancel schools, but you can cancel classes or shut schools.
landfall as a tropical depression in the Mexican state of Michoacán on October 23, 2018, causing deadly mudslides. - could we link some of this, like mudslides and tropical depression. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski(
talk •
contribs)15:52, 30 August 2020 (UTC)reply
Hi, as the creator of the image I see a possible problem with the license on this image. SSEC contains an archive of some public domain raw satellite data. I constructed the image myself using the archive data and out of courtesy cite when I use the service. However, the same raw data can be accessed through NOAA and is in the public domain. If I were to use the NOAA source and produce the exact same image would this eliminate any issues?
Supportstorm (
talk)
20:49, 6 September 2020 (UTC)reply
Closing note: This
candidate has been promoted, but there may be a delay in bot processing of the close. Please see
WP:FAC/ar, and leave the {{featured article candidates}} template in place on the talk page until the
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive. Please do not modify it. No further edits should be made to this page.