The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 22:13, 25 January 2010 [1].
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I am nominating this for featured article because three different copy-edits have been done since previous nomination (by myself, Airplaneman, and ATC), and I feel everything is up to FA standards. Ω pho is 16:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Nice little article.
"and attempt to discover what the demon's plan is for Sam and other psychic children like him." - Maybe "and attempt to discover the demon's plan for Sam and other psychic children like him."
The word "season" is used 3, 3, and 2 times in the fist three paragraphs. A bit too much. "Casting" is 3, 6, 2. "Writing" uses the word a ton early on. "Reception" is 4, 8, 1. "DVD Release" has 7 of them.
"It averaged about 3.14 million American viewers, and was in danger of being canceled." - This isn't clear to me. Was it going to be not renewed? Canceled half way through?
"The cast and crew gained many award nominations" - "gained" is awkward.
"While both the brotherly chemistry between the lead actors and the decision to finish the main storyline at the season's end were praised, the formulaic structure of the episodes was criticized." - Was this by the critics? If so, say that. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:09, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
"In exchange for saving Dean's life, he will give up his own life, his immortal soul, and the mystical Colt." - Might be good to say what the mystical Colt is.
"As the genius Ash (Chad Lindberg) attempts to analyze John's research on Azazel with his computer" - Maybe "As the bar's resident genius Ash (Chad Lindberg) attempts to analyze John's research on Azazel with his computer"
"Dean later takes out his anger over his father's death on the Impala. " - Might be good to explain what the Impala is.
"was executed and buried on the location where the apartment building was later built." - "at the location" maybe? Not sure.
"This makes Sam realize that the woman's spirit" - "Sam realizes that the woman's spirit"
You might want to remove the word "actually" in episodes 7 and 8. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
"leading Sam to believe his father's belief of Croatoan being a demonic plague." - Maybe "father's theory"
"it contacts someone to inform him that Sam was immune to the virus. " - Maybe "is immune"
"a single mother, who plans to sell it." - Not sure the commas is needed.
"and a metal pipe on the truck falls and impales him to death," - "to death" probably not needed.
"He then visits Jo at her job and begins sadistically toying with her head," - Sounds like her head is not attached to her body. Maybe "playing mind games" or something.
"Sam shoots Dean and flees to Bobby." - "flees to Bobby's" maybe. Also, should say who Bobby is, since it's the first mention. (Who Bobby is is in the next episode)
"and Bobby learns that the demon used a binding ritual to bind itself into Sam's body" - "and Bobby learns that the demon used a binding ritual to bind itself to Sam's body"
"it reveals that it is the same demon which formerly resided within Meg Masters." - First mentino of Meg. Might want to say who she is. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
They salt and burn several bodies. You might want to explain why in the first instance. They also use salt as protection several times. Might want to explain that as well. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:55, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
ADR (Automated dialogue replacement) should be fully spelled out, I think.
It is hard to find another word for "season". Sometimes you can use "it". "When production of the second season started, Kripke wanted to avoid the monster-of-the-week formula used in the first season." could use "the previous year" for the second instance. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 21:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
ADR should be spelled out per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (abbreviations)
"but decided against it because he did not have knowledge of production details." - Maybe "but decided against it because he did not have production knowledge."
"and decided to have production look like "goofballs"" - "the production"? What is goofballs? The production crew look like goofballs?
"The plot, which apparently "fell into place" during the writing process, " - Why was it "apparently"?
"hallucinates that she is mental patient" - "a mental"?
"the writers would have to devise a way for Sam and Dean to escape in the end." - "the writers had to devise a way for Sam and Dean to escape in the end."?
" which Kripke feels ended up improving the episode" - "felt"? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 22:50, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Support - Nice article. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 17:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Oppose for image concerns (criteria 3):
Data of "free" image is non-verifiable (
WP:IUP#Requirements), one non-free image seems to be untenable with NFCC, and one could do with improvement.
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Oppose for now by Karanacs. Overall, I found this an engaging and well-written article, but there were some areas that I got completely bogged down in. I've never seen this show, and I haven't read anything else about it. The article body opens with the episode list, and I was totally confused. I highly recommend a background or overview section that would summarize the first season very briefly.
Karanacs ( talk) 18:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Neutral. Excellent work on making the episode list more accessible! I was interested enough to read the summaries of the other seasons and may actually start watching this now. I unfortunately don't have the time to review the Writing section right now, but I would not have opposed on that basis alone. Karanacs ( talk) 20:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC) reply
Oppose On sources What makes these reliable?
I'm not impressed with some of these pop articles that come at FAC with sources like these. Do people know that trade publications (or even a basic Google Archive search) exist?
RB88 ( T) 15:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Strong oppose. Underwhelmed; one of the weakest FACs over recent months if it's promoted. But I won't stand in the way.
I haven't gone further. The start suggests that the whole thing needs an independent copy-edit. Tony (talk) 23:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC) reply
PS "the writers desired to flesh out the concept of hunters." ... Plain English, please. Tony (talk) 23:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC) reply
Spot check:
Probably remove comma for a smoother read.
The article was promoted by SandyGeorgia 22:13, 25 January 2010 [1].
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I am nominating this for featured article because three different copy-edits have been done since previous nomination (by myself, Airplaneman, and ATC), and I feel everything is up to FA standards. Ω pho is 16:08, 22 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Nice little article.
"and attempt to discover what the demon's plan is for Sam and other psychic children like him." - Maybe "and attempt to discover the demon's plan for Sam and other psychic children like him."
The word "season" is used 3, 3, and 2 times in the fist three paragraphs. A bit too much. "Casting" is 3, 6, 2. "Writing" uses the word a ton early on. "Reception" is 4, 8, 1. "DVD Release" has 7 of them.
"It averaged about 3.14 million American viewers, and was in danger of being canceled." - This isn't clear to me. Was it going to be not renewed? Canceled half way through?
"The cast and crew gained many award nominations" - "gained" is awkward.
"While both the brotherly chemistry between the lead actors and the decision to finish the main storyline at the season's end were praised, the formulaic structure of the episodes was criticized." - Was this by the critics? If so, say that. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:09, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
"In exchange for saving Dean's life, he will give up his own life, his immortal soul, and the mystical Colt." - Might be good to say what the mystical Colt is.
"As the genius Ash (Chad Lindberg) attempts to analyze John's research on Azazel with his computer" - Maybe "As the bar's resident genius Ash (Chad Lindberg) attempts to analyze John's research on Azazel with his computer"
"Dean later takes out his anger over his father's death on the Impala. " - Might be good to explain what the Impala is.
"was executed and buried on the location where the apartment building was later built." - "at the location" maybe? Not sure.
"This makes Sam realize that the woman's spirit" - "Sam realizes that the woman's spirit"
You might want to remove the word "actually" in episodes 7 and 8. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
"leading Sam to believe his father's belief of Croatoan being a demonic plague." - Maybe "father's theory"
"it contacts someone to inform him that Sam was immune to the virus. " - Maybe "is immune"
"a single mother, who plans to sell it." - Not sure the commas is needed.
"and a metal pipe on the truck falls and impales him to death," - "to death" probably not needed.
"He then visits Jo at her job and begins sadistically toying with her head," - Sounds like her head is not attached to her body. Maybe "playing mind games" or something.
"Sam shoots Dean and flees to Bobby." - "flees to Bobby's" maybe. Also, should say who Bobby is, since it's the first mention. (Who Bobby is is in the next episode)
"and Bobby learns that the demon used a binding ritual to bind itself into Sam's body" - "and Bobby learns that the demon used a binding ritual to bind itself to Sam's body"
"it reveals that it is the same demon which formerly resided within Meg Masters." - First mentino of Meg. Might want to say who she is. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
They salt and burn several bodies. You might want to explain why in the first instance. They also use salt as protection several times. Might want to explain that as well. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:55, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
ADR (Automated dialogue replacement) should be fully spelled out, I think.
It is hard to find another word for "season". Sometimes you can use "it". "When production of the second season started, Kripke wanted to avoid the monster-of-the-week formula used in the first season." could use "the previous year" for the second instance. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 21:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
ADR should be spelled out per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (abbreviations)
"but decided against it because he did not have knowledge of production details." - Maybe "but decided against it because he did not have production knowledge."
"and decided to have production look like "goofballs"" - "the production"? What is goofballs? The production crew look like goofballs?
"The plot, which apparently "fell into place" during the writing process, " - Why was it "apparently"?
"hallucinates that she is mental patient" - "a mental"?
"the writers would have to devise a way for Sam and Dean to escape in the end." - "the writers had to devise a way for Sam and Dean to escape in the end."?
" which Kripke feels ended up improving the episode" - "felt"? - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 22:50, 26 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Support - Nice article. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 17:40, 28 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Oppose for image concerns (criteria 3):
Data of "free" image is non-verifiable (
WP:IUP#Requirements), one non-free image seems to be untenable with NFCC, and one could do with improvement.
Jappalang (
talk)
03:09, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
reply
Oppose for now by Karanacs. Overall, I found this an engaging and well-written article, but there were some areas that I got completely bogged down in. I've never seen this show, and I haven't read anything else about it. The article body opens with the episode list, and I was totally confused. I highly recommend a background or overview section that would summarize the first season very briefly.
Karanacs ( talk) 18:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Neutral. Excellent work on making the episode list more accessible! I was interested enough to read the summaries of the other seasons and may actually start watching this now. I unfortunately don't have the time to review the Writing section right now, but I would not have opposed on that basis alone. Karanacs ( talk) 20:33, 7 January 2010 (UTC) reply
Oppose On sources What makes these reliable?
I'm not impressed with some of these pop articles that come at FAC with sources like these. Do people know that trade publications (or even a basic Google Archive search) exist?
RB88 ( T) 15:52, 31 December 2009 (UTC) reply
Strong oppose. Underwhelmed; one of the weakest FACs over recent months if it's promoted. But I won't stand in the way.
I haven't gone further. The start suggests that the whole thing needs an independent copy-edit. Tony (talk) 23:01, 16 January 2010 (UTC) reply
PS "the writers desired to flesh out the concept of hunters." ... Plain English, please. Tony (talk) 23:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC) reply
Spot check:
Probably remove comma for a smoother read.