The article was promoted by Buidhe via FACBot ( talk) 22 March 2022 [1].
This article is about a landmark International-style skyscraper in Manhattan, New York City, erected in the 1950s. As the name suggests, the building was erected for the Seagram Company and designed by several architects, most notably Ludwig Mies van der Rohe. This building's development was influenced by Phyllis Lambert, the daughter of Seagram's CEO at the time, who pushed for the building to be a New York City landmark in the 1970s and 1980s, and who even today maintains a connection with the building, over 60 years after its completion. It's been called one of "New York's most copied buildings" and, even before it became an official New York City landmark in 1989, had a large influence on other International style buildings.
This page was promoted as a Good Article a few months ago after a thorough GA review by GeneralPoxter and was copyedited through the GOCE a few months ago. I am very grateful to Twofingered Typist of the GOCE, though he unfortunately passed away not long after he copyedited this page. I think it's up to FA quality now, and I look forward to all comments and feedback. While the previous nomination was archived due to lack of commentary, I hope that isn't the case this time around. Epicgenius ( talk) 13:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
I will do an image review of this article soon. But a couple of quick comments:
Most of the ALT descriptions are quite lacking in detail, with only the bare minimum used (just with "refer to caption"). To further elaborate.
Images all have appropriate licensing (in public domain or creative commons license), either taken from flickr or wikimedia commons.
More to come. ZKang123 ( talk) 02:57, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
That's all for now.-- ZKang123 ( talk) 06:33, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Reserving a spot. – ♠Vami _IV†♠ 07:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
[...] 599 Lexington Avenue and Citigroup Center [...]Missing "the" after "and".
The Seagram Building was never officially named for its original anchor tenant, Canadian conglomerate Seagram, and is legally known as 375 Park Avenue.[21]This sentence seems to me a better fit for #Design.
Unlike Lever House's mullions, which General Bronze also manufactured, the Seagram Building's mullions are only for aesthetics and are thus susceptible to thermal expansion or contraction.How relevant exactly is the Lever House here? Were they designed by the same people? Its only prior appearance in the article is in #Design, in the 'list of things near this building' section.
Mumford wrote, "outside and inside are simply the same""Double quotation marks, no period.
After a 2017 renovation, the Lobster Club contains a design by Peter Marino.What design? The 2017 renovation?
The second dining room is a private dining room with white partition walls, [...]There are two "dining room"s too many here, methinks.
Up to #History. – ♠Vami _IV†♠ 16:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Following the 1933 repeal of Prohibition in the United States, Seagram Distiller's CEO Samuel Bronfman was planning a large Manhattan headquarters.The use of future tense in the second clause is odd to me.
Following the 1933 repeal of Prohibition in the United States, [...] In 1951, the company bought [...]That is a lot of time to plan! What did Seagram do with that time?
[...] said he was happy to come back for a "repeat performance".This feels as though more of the quote than is quoted made its way into the prose here, specifically "happy to come back".
Reading complete. – ♠Vami _IV†♠ 19:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I'll begin a review of this article very soon! My reviews tend to focus on prose and MOS issues, especially on the lede, but I will also comment on anything that could be improved. I'll post up some comments below over the next couple days, which you should either respond to, or ask me questions on issues you are unsure of. I'll be claiming points towards the wikicup once this review is over.
Additionally, if you liked this review, or are looking for items to review, I have some at my nominations list. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ( talk • contribs) 15:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
My architect sister dragged me to see this building during a visit from Australia to NYC in 2009, so it's interesting to learn about it. I'd like to offer the following comments:
Support The above changes look good, and my comments are now addressed. This is a really great article. Nick-D ( talk) 09:37, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
@ Epicgenius: Please ping me when you have received one or two additional supports. JBchrch talk 18:44, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, I got a bit overwhelmed at work and it slipped out of my mind.
Here are a few comments a first pass:
Will do a second pass later or tomorrow. JBchrch talk 17:54, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Spot checks
Where to begin uh... good building? Nice architecture... the blacks are amazing though, blends in with the modern surroundings. Location kinda awkward I guess... looks significant. Anyways, comments it is. Gerald WL 02:16, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved comments from Gerald WL 05:47, 20 March 2022 (UTC) |
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* I generally try and make hatnote descriptions as short as possible. Here, in "For the structure in Niagara Falls that was originally named Seagram Tower", "that was" can be easily dropped; I've seen similar hatnotes on other articles and they don't have the "that was".
More later. Apologies for the long interval -- school is seriously messing with me, but I'll try to finish this review. Gerald WL 15:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
That's all I can find for the 21st century sub, and those are all the points I have for this article. I do have a concern of the repetition of "The" as a starting sentence, at "The building was 99.5 percent occupied, but only six original tenants remained. The following year, the Seagram Company moved its headquarters out of the building. The Seagram Building continued to be held by Rosen's RFR Holding.", however I feel like it's unchangable so it's fine. If all comments are resolved I'll strike and support. Gerald WL 15:37, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
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@ FAC coordinators: This nomination has now received several prose supports, as well as a source review and an image review. Do I need to do anything else for this nomination, or should I just wait? Thanks in advance. Epicgenius ( talk) 03:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
The article was promoted by Buidhe via FACBot ( talk) 22 March 2022 [1].
This article is about a landmark International-style skyscraper in Manhattan, New York City, erected in the 1950s. As the name suggests, the building was erected for the Seagram Company and designed by several architects, most notably Ludwig Mies van der Rohe. This building's development was influenced by Phyllis Lambert, the daughter of Seagram's CEO at the time, who pushed for the building to be a New York City landmark in the 1970s and 1980s, and who even today maintains a connection with the building, over 60 years after its completion. It's been called one of "New York's most copied buildings" and, even before it became an official New York City landmark in 1989, had a large influence on other International style buildings.
This page was promoted as a Good Article a few months ago after a thorough GA review by GeneralPoxter and was copyedited through the GOCE a few months ago. I am very grateful to Twofingered Typist of the GOCE, though he unfortunately passed away not long after he copyedited this page. I think it's up to FA quality now, and I look forward to all comments and feedback. While the previous nomination was archived due to lack of commentary, I hope that isn't the case this time around. Epicgenius ( talk) 13:45, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
I will do an image review of this article soon. But a couple of quick comments:
Most of the ALT descriptions are quite lacking in detail, with only the bare minimum used (just with "refer to caption"). To further elaborate.
Images all have appropriate licensing (in public domain or creative commons license), either taken from flickr or wikimedia commons.
More to come. ZKang123 ( talk) 02:57, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
That's all for now.-- ZKang123 ( talk) 06:33, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
Reserving a spot. – ♠Vami _IV†♠ 07:43, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
[...] 599 Lexington Avenue and Citigroup Center [...]Missing "the" after "and".
The Seagram Building was never officially named for its original anchor tenant, Canadian conglomerate Seagram, and is legally known as 375 Park Avenue.[21]This sentence seems to me a better fit for #Design.
Unlike Lever House's mullions, which General Bronze also manufactured, the Seagram Building's mullions are only for aesthetics and are thus susceptible to thermal expansion or contraction.How relevant exactly is the Lever House here? Were they designed by the same people? Its only prior appearance in the article is in #Design, in the 'list of things near this building' section.
Mumford wrote, "outside and inside are simply the same""Double quotation marks, no period.
After a 2017 renovation, the Lobster Club contains a design by Peter Marino.What design? The 2017 renovation?
The second dining room is a private dining room with white partition walls, [...]There are two "dining room"s too many here, methinks.
Up to #History. – ♠Vami _IV†♠ 16:10, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
Following the 1933 repeal of Prohibition in the United States, Seagram Distiller's CEO Samuel Bronfman was planning a large Manhattan headquarters.The use of future tense in the second clause is odd to me.
Following the 1933 repeal of Prohibition in the United States, [...] In 1951, the company bought [...]That is a lot of time to plan! What did Seagram do with that time?
[...] said he was happy to come back for a "repeat performance".This feels as though more of the quote than is quoted made its way into the prose here, specifically "happy to come back".
Reading complete. – ♠Vami _IV†♠ 19:45, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
I'll begin a review of this article very soon! My reviews tend to focus on prose and MOS issues, especially on the lede, but I will also comment on anything that could be improved. I'll post up some comments below over the next couple days, which you should either respond to, or ask me questions on issues you are unsure of. I'll be claiming points towards the wikicup once this review is over.
Additionally, if you liked this review, or are looking for items to review, I have some at my nominations list. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ( talk • contribs) 15:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
My architect sister dragged me to see this building during a visit from Australia to NYC in 2009, so it's interesting to learn about it. I'd like to offer the following comments:
Support The above changes look good, and my comments are now addressed. This is a really great article. Nick-D ( talk) 09:37, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
@ Epicgenius: Please ping me when you have received one or two additional supports. JBchrch talk 18:44, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
Sorry, I got a bit overwhelmed at work and it slipped out of my mind.
Here are a few comments a first pass:
Will do a second pass later or tomorrow. JBchrch talk 17:54, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
Spot checks
Where to begin uh... good building? Nice architecture... the blacks are amazing though, blends in with the modern surroundings. Location kinda awkward I guess... looks significant. Anyways, comments it is. Gerald WL 02:16, 1 March 2022 (UTC)
Resolved comments from Gerald WL 05:47, 20 March 2022 (UTC) |
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* I generally try and make hatnote descriptions as short as possible. Here, in "For the structure in Niagara Falls that was originally named Seagram Tower", "that was" can be easily dropped; I've seen similar hatnotes on other articles and they don't have the "that was".
More later. Apologies for the long interval -- school is seriously messing with me, but I'll try to finish this review. Gerald WL 15:10, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
That's all I can find for the 21st century sub, and those are all the points I have for this article. I do have a concern of the repetition of "The" as a starting sentence, at "The building was 99.5 percent occupied, but only six original tenants remained. The following year, the Seagram Company moved its headquarters out of the building. The Seagram Building continued to be held by Rosen's RFR Holding.", however I feel like it's unchangable so it's fine. If all comments are resolved I'll strike and support. Gerald WL 15:37, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
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@ FAC coordinators: This nomination has now received several prose supports, as well as a source review and an image review. Do I need to do anything else for this nomination, or should I just wait? Thanks in advance. Epicgenius ( talk) 03:52, 22 March 2022 (UTC)