The article was archived by FrB.TG via FACBot ( talk) 27 July 2024 [1].
This article is about My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010), the fifth studio album by American rapper Kanye West. It was recorded during West's exile in Hawaii after a period of controversy through 2009, resulting in a maximalist style with elements of his previous work. The album was met with widespread critical acclaim and also received much retrospective praise, including being ranked as one of the greatest albums of all time. West promoted the album with four singles that were top 40 hits in the United States and the film Runaway, while it reached the top 10 in countries like the US and Canada. The article became a GA back in 2011, more than five years before I joined this site, though I have monitored it over the years and put in extensive work back in both 2022 for the first FAC and even more so for the multiple candidacies of 2024. The blocks to FAC on the last occasions were mainly the book sources not included, too much close phrasing and parts not reading smoothly, although I have put so much in to get this to another nomination around three months later for West's magnum ops! We can do this, West fans! -- K. Peake 20:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
My concern from last time about the critical reception section hasn't really been addressed. The second paragraph is still a collection of disparate opinions rather than focusing on one theme. All I am discerning as a reader from the critical reception section is that critics focused on how it was maximalist, but some were "more qualified in their praise". Okay, but is this really all that is evident? Is there nothing about production choices, vocals, guest appearances, lyrics, etc.? So far only reception of the genre is covered with the maximalism paragraph. There are 45 reviews indexed on Metacritic alone, but only 12 are given in the prose. I don't think 25% is good enough. Overall this section still does not feel like "a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature", so I will unfortunately have to oppose per WP:FACR 1c. Heartfox ( talk) 02:24, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello! This is more of a comment and not a stance on the article. I initially supported this article in the previous FAC review, but inspecting the article again and reading the FAC comments, I found personal issues with it. I think the prose of the Musical Styles and Lyrics and Themes sections has way too much of individual critics commenting on certain aspects of the album, sometimes in a He said-She said-They said kind of way. It feels like I'm reading the article from a critic's POV rather than an encyclopedic one. If it were me, I would reexamine the sources for what is generally agreed upon by the critics, and then condense them in the prose. I don't like to use every single statement from every single critic, and I usually rule out on what I think doesn't benefit the article. 웃 O O 04:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)
The article was archived by FrB.TG via FACBot ( talk) 27 July 2024 [1].
This article is about My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy (2010), the fifth studio album by American rapper Kanye West. It was recorded during West's exile in Hawaii after a period of controversy through 2009, resulting in a maximalist style with elements of his previous work. The album was met with widespread critical acclaim and also received much retrospective praise, including being ranked as one of the greatest albums of all time. West promoted the album with four singles that were top 40 hits in the United States and the film Runaway, while it reached the top 10 in countries like the US and Canada. The article became a GA back in 2011, more than five years before I joined this site, though I have monitored it over the years and put in extensive work back in both 2022 for the first FAC and even more so for the multiple candidacies of 2024. The blocks to FAC on the last occasions were mainly the book sources not included, too much close phrasing and parts not reading smoothly, although I have put so much in to get this to another nomination around three months later for West's magnum ops! We can do this, West fans! -- K. Peake 20:58, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
My concern from last time about the critical reception section hasn't really been addressed. The second paragraph is still a collection of disparate opinions rather than focusing on one theme. All I am discerning as a reader from the critical reception section is that critics focused on how it was maximalist, but some were "more qualified in their praise". Okay, but is this really all that is evident? Is there nothing about production choices, vocals, guest appearances, lyrics, etc.? So far only reception of the genre is covered with the maximalism paragraph. There are 45 reviews indexed on Metacritic alone, but only 12 are given in the prose. I don't think 25% is good enough. Overall this section still does not feel like "a thorough and representative survey of the relevant literature", so I will unfortunately have to oppose per WP:FACR 1c. Heartfox ( talk) 02:24, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello! This is more of a comment and not a stance on the article. I initially supported this article in the previous FAC review, but inspecting the article again and reading the FAC comments, I found personal issues with it. I think the prose of the Musical Styles and Lyrics and Themes sections has way too much of individual critics commenting on certain aspects of the album, sometimes in a He said-She said-They said kind of way. It feels like I'm reading the article from a critic's POV rather than an encyclopedic one. If it were me, I would reexamine the sources for what is generally agreed upon by the critics, and then condense them in the prose. I don't like to use every single statement from every single critic, and I usually rule out on what I think doesn't benefit the article. 웃 O O 04:30, 13 July 2024 (UTC)