The article was promoted by Ealdgyth via FACBot ( talk) 27 April 2020 [1].
The MAX Red Line is the second-busiest line in Portland's MAX Light Rail system and the region's only airport rail link. After commencing service nearly twenty years ago just one day before the September 11 attacks, it now carries over 20,000 riders per day between the cities of Beaverton and Portland, and Portland International Airport. Having successfully gone through GA and DYK nominations, as well as numerous read-throughs and copy edits, I feel the time is right to nominate this article for FA. Truflip99 ( talk) 16:48, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Placeholder comment. So far, this looks good, but I will look at this more in depth later. epicgenius ( talk) 16:57, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Lead:
The MAX Red Line is a light rail service in Portland, Oregon, United States, operated by TriMet as part of the MAX Light Rail system. It serves 26 stations in the cities of Beaverton and Portland, running predominantly east–west.- this has a minor contradiction. I'd rather you mention Beaverton in the first sentence. E.g. "The MAX Red Line is a light rail service within Beaverton and Portland in Oregon..."
The Red Line, formerly Central Link, is a light rail line in Seattle, Washington, United States, and part of Sound Transit's Link light rail system. It serves 16 stations in the cities of Seattle, SeaTac, and Tukwila, traveling 20 miles (32 km) between University of Washington and Angle Lake stations.-- Would it be better to reword it to:
It serves 26 stations between Beaverton and Portland...?
it then splits to an exclusive, 5.5-mile (8.9 km) segment,- I can somewhat see what an "exclusive segment" is, but is there a better wording?
It is the second-busiest service in the MAX system, carrying an average of 22,530 weekday passengers in September 2019.- Do you mean "passengers per weekday"?
owing its quickness to- generally, "owing to" is unwieldy and should have a more appropriate wording like "because of".
TriMet plans to further extend service west to Fair Complex/Hillsboro Airport station in Hillsboro, among other improvements, by 2024.- I'd rather you mention "improvements" first. E.g. "TriMet is planning several improvements for the line, including a further extension west to Fair Complex/Hillsboro Airport station in Hillsboro by 2024." Alternatively, if the extension is the main improvement being highlighted, you can reword it that way. epicgenius ( talk) 15:55, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
History
6 to 14 million passengers between 1990 and 2000- six to fourteen million, per MOS:NUMERAL.
This project also provisioned for a future- Typically, either something is provided for, or has provisions for.
In 1994, parking lots were operating at 90 percent capacity as projections fell short of demand- I'd mention the lack of demand first, before the 90 percent capacity.
Clark County, Washington, and Clackamas Town Center- this looks like it is not a serial list as it's talking about only two places. But the placement of the commas make it appear that way. Would "Clark County in Washington" work?
Part of the agreements authorized Bechtel to design and build a 5.5-mile-long (8.9 km) light rail extension to the airport- do you mean "A part of the agreements"? "One part"? The beginning of this sentence sounds strange.
in December 1997.[22] In October 1998,- I wouldn't go with dates right next to each other in adjacent sentences
$182.7 million- conversion?
6 new rail cars- "Six new rail cars"
owing to- "because of"
limited to twenty parking spaces at Gateway Transit Center and several others along Airport Way- how were these impacted? Eliminated or added?
Bechtel began end-to-end testing in March 2001, followed by TriMet in July- So how did the end-to-end testing go about? Did each contractor have different rolling stock?
In 2000, TriMet named the new MAX service to the airport the Red Line to differentiate it from the established service between Hillsboro and Gresham- this sentence probably needs some reorganization or punctuation, e.g. "the 'Red Line'" (note that you would also have to put quotes around the "Blue Line").
after which TriMet introduced 272–PDX Night Bus, which operates in the late night and early morning hours when the Red Line is not operating.[44][45]- I feel like this is going on a tangent from the original point of the sentence, which is that the Red Line replaced a bus service.
deploy two-car consists temporarily for the first time- I'd go with "temporarily deploy", because "temporarily for the first time" just sounds wrong. Or you can reword it another way. Was this temporary deployment only for holidays?
no-transfer airport connection- this is probably just another term for a "one-seat ride"
More later. epicgenius ( talk) 23:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
OK, more comments:
one-seat option from Portland International Airport to ten additional stations on the Westside MAX- I find this to be clunky. Is TriMet adding these stations as brand-new stations, or is the one-seat airport service being extended to ten existing stations?
If the project is approved, construction is targeted to begin in 2021 and finish by 2024- when is the approval expected to be?
In 2020, TriMet will temporarily close Portland International Airport station from March 29 to May 30, and again from August 30 to November 4,- What is the status of this? Have the closures started yet?
Near Rocky Butte, the line enters a tunnel beneath the northbound lanes of the freeway and exits on the median.- I think "surfaces on the median" or "emerges on the median" would be better, since "exits" can be quite confusing.
two segments of the Airport MAX extension are single track.- This has a grammatical error; use "are single-tracked" or "consist of a single track".
On July 24, 2019,[72] TriMet announced the permanent closure of the Mall stations, as well as a one-year pilot closure of Kings Hill/Southwest Salmon Street station, in an effort to speed up travel times. The closures took effect on March 1, 2020.[3]- I think this can be condensed. The announcement dates are not likely to be relevant at this point, since the stations are already closed.
Its trains operate for approximately 22 hours per day from a headway of 30 minutes during the early mornings and late evenings to as frequently as 15 minutes for most of the day- I think "from a headway of..." is weird in this context. I suggest "with headways ranging from..."
From Monday to Sunday,- "seven days a week" perhaps
last three trains turn into eastbound Blue Line trains- should "trains" be "trips" in this context? It would be difficult to be imagine physical trains "turning into" something.
Cascade Station- is this the same as Cascades station? If so, capitalization has to be consistent.
In 2008, Cascades station recorded an eight-fold increase in traffic, from 250 passengers per week to 2,000.[81] By 2010, this number had increased to 6,000.[82]- is there a way to combine these sentences?
These are all the comments I have for now. epicgenius ( talk) 19:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
I have made some minor copy edits which I believe leaves the article meeting FA criteria. The content looks good. Twofingered Typist ( talk) 20:18, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Like Epicgenius, I will look at this more in-depth later. Here are a few comments
Lead:
The extension began construction in 1999 and was completed in just under two years due to the exclusion of federal funding and the utilization of existing public right-of-way.Maybe it is just me, but it seems to me that to a typical reader, that the fact that project was sped up by excluding federal funding might be counterintuitive. I understand the reasoning, and know that the lead is supposed to be a summary of the article, but it seems a bit off left unexplained here.
Amid strong westside ridership on the Blue Line, Red Line service was extended west to Beaverton Transit Center in 2003.You should establish that the Red Line was being extended along an already existing line.
Background and partnership agreement:
In 1975, during the preliminary design phase of Interstate 205 (I-205), Portland city planners recommended...Do you know the agency or agencies the city planners were working for? If you could find that information, it would be useful to include in the article.
In 1986, regional transit plansThe citation indicates that Metro was behind the plans. I would mention that to make clear to the reader that these were official plans done by a government agency.
with construction projected to begin around 2010.I just want to make sure this is right. In 1986, the plan projected the line to be completed in 2010, and later it was accelerated to open in 2001?
was defeated by Clark County voters in 1995.It would be helpful to mention the margin of the defeat.
In late 1996, Bechtel initiated discussionsThis is abrupt, and I think it would be useful to explain what Bechtel is and why they solicited the proposal.
The project was accelerated with the establishment of a public–private partnership, which eliminated the need for Federal Transit Administration (FTA) fundingI think it would be useful to note that the timeline was also sped up as an Environmental Impact Statement would not have to be completed, as the project was not using federal funds.
Funding and construction:
Additional costs raised this total to $182.7 million.What are these additional costs?
Under U.S. federal regulations, the Port of Portland was able to fund only the portion of rail located within its property, with approval from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).Was this a Passenger Facility Charge? If so, I would mention that and link to Airport improvement fee.
funded by $30 million in bondsI am just being curious here, but were these bonds from a voter iniative, a local government, or somewhere else? Thanks.
over the freewaysIs this referring to multiple highways? If so, what highway in addition to I-205? You should mention them instead of just saying freeways.
owing to the I-205 TransitwayI would change this to "owing to the already constructed I-205 Transitway" or something like that.
Much of the extension was built over public right-of-way.Besides the highway right-of-way, were any other rights-of-way used for the project? If so, they should be mentioned.
Opening and later extension:
Upon opening, the Red Line terminated at the Library and Galleria stations in downtown Portland, where its trains turned around at the 11th Avenue loop tracks.Had these loop tracks already been in place? Were any modifications made so this station could be a terminal for Red Line service?
C-Tran moved its serviceMake clear that C-Train is a bus operator
On September 1, 2003, Red Line service was extended farther west using the existing Westside MAX tracksUpgrades are being made to extend Red Line service to Hillsboro. Was any infrastructure constructed to enable this extension of Red Line service in 2003?
Future plans
Stations
The closures took effect on March 1, 2020.You have a source from when the changes were announced, but you also need a source to indicate that they actually took place on March 1st.
@ Truflip99: This article is exceptional, and I look forward to hearing your responses. I will look at references and images later.-- Kew Gardens 613 ( talk) 18:30, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Leaving this here while I review it. If sources haven't been particularly examined, I'll do that. First note that, though the many Oregonian sources are generally inaccessible, I have had to look over some from here for a GA source review, and they turned up fine (no OR, no copyvio, it is RS) - so I won't look over these on assumption that the same standards have been met. Kingsif ( talk) 17:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria ( talk) 14:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Prose comments forthcoming.
I came here from my FAC Cyclone Chapala, hoping you might do a review in return for not my article, but one of the four other tropical cyclone related articles.
The article is rather good. My issues shouldn't be too difficult to address. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
The article was promoted by Ealdgyth via FACBot ( talk) 27 April 2020 [1].
The MAX Red Line is the second-busiest line in Portland's MAX Light Rail system and the region's only airport rail link. After commencing service nearly twenty years ago just one day before the September 11 attacks, it now carries over 20,000 riders per day between the cities of Beaverton and Portland, and Portland International Airport. Having successfully gone through GA and DYK nominations, as well as numerous read-throughs and copy edits, I feel the time is right to nominate this article for FA. Truflip99 ( talk) 16:48, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Placeholder comment. So far, this looks good, but I will look at this more in depth later. epicgenius ( talk) 16:57, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Lead:
The MAX Red Line is a light rail service in Portland, Oregon, United States, operated by TriMet as part of the MAX Light Rail system. It serves 26 stations in the cities of Beaverton and Portland, running predominantly east–west.- this has a minor contradiction. I'd rather you mention Beaverton in the first sentence. E.g. "The MAX Red Line is a light rail service within Beaverton and Portland in Oregon..."
The Red Line, formerly Central Link, is a light rail line in Seattle, Washington, United States, and part of Sound Transit's Link light rail system. It serves 16 stations in the cities of Seattle, SeaTac, and Tukwila, traveling 20 miles (32 km) between University of Washington and Angle Lake stations.-- Would it be better to reword it to:
It serves 26 stations between Beaverton and Portland...?
it then splits to an exclusive, 5.5-mile (8.9 km) segment,- I can somewhat see what an "exclusive segment" is, but is there a better wording?
It is the second-busiest service in the MAX system, carrying an average of 22,530 weekday passengers in September 2019.- Do you mean "passengers per weekday"?
owing its quickness to- generally, "owing to" is unwieldy and should have a more appropriate wording like "because of".
TriMet plans to further extend service west to Fair Complex/Hillsboro Airport station in Hillsboro, among other improvements, by 2024.- I'd rather you mention "improvements" first. E.g. "TriMet is planning several improvements for the line, including a further extension west to Fair Complex/Hillsboro Airport station in Hillsboro by 2024." Alternatively, if the extension is the main improvement being highlighted, you can reword it that way. epicgenius ( talk) 15:55, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
History
6 to 14 million passengers between 1990 and 2000- six to fourteen million, per MOS:NUMERAL.
This project also provisioned for a future- Typically, either something is provided for, or has provisions for.
In 1994, parking lots were operating at 90 percent capacity as projections fell short of demand- I'd mention the lack of demand first, before the 90 percent capacity.
Clark County, Washington, and Clackamas Town Center- this looks like it is not a serial list as it's talking about only two places. But the placement of the commas make it appear that way. Would "Clark County in Washington" work?
Part of the agreements authorized Bechtel to design and build a 5.5-mile-long (8.9 km) light rail extension to the airport- do you mean "A part of the agreements"? "One part"? The beginning of this sentence sounds strange.
in December 1997.[22] In October 1998,- I wouldn't go with dates right next to each other in adjacent sentences
$182.7 million- conversion?
6 new rail cars- "Six new rail cars"
owing to- "because of"
limited to twenty parking spaces at Gateway Transit Center and several others along Airport Way- how were these impacted? Eliminated or added?
Bechtel began end-to-end testing in March 2001, followed by TriMet in July- So how did the end-to-end testing go about? Did each contractor have different rolling stock?
In 2000, TriMet named the new MAX service to the airport the Red Line to differentiate it from the established service between Hillsboro and Gresham- this sentence probably needs some reorganization or punctuation, e.g. "the 'Red Line'" (note that you would also have to put quotes around the "Blue Line").
after which TriMet introduced 272–PDX Night Bus, which operates in the late night and early morning hours when the Red Line is not operating.[44][45]- I feel like this is going on a tangent from the original point of the sentence, which is that the Red Line replaced a bus service.
deploy two-car consists temporarily for the first time- I'd go with "temporarily deploy", because "temporarily for the first time" just sounds wrong. Or you can reword it another way. Was this temporary deployment only for holidays?
no-transfer airport connection- this is probably just another term for a "one-seat ride"
More later. epicgenius ( talk) 23:09, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
OK, more comments:
one-seat option from Portland International Airport to ten additional stations on the Westside MAX- I find this to be clunky. Is TriMet adding these stations as brand-new stations, or is the one-seat airport service being extended to ten existing stations?
If the project is approved, construction is targeted to begin in 2021 and finish by 2024- when is the approval expected to be?
In 2020, TriMet will temporarily close Portland International Airport station from March 29 to May 30, and again from August 30 to November 4,- What is the status of this? Have the closures started yet?
Near Rocky Butte, the line enters a tunnel beneath the northbound lanes of the freeway and exits on the median.- I think "surfaces on the median" or "emerges on the median" would be better, since "exits" can be quite confusing.
two segments of the Airport MAX extension are single track.- This has a grammatical error; use "are single-tracked" or "consist of a single track".
On July 24, 2019,[72] TriMet announced the permanent closure of the Mall stations, as well as a one-year pilot closure of Kings Hill/Southwest Salmon Street station, in an effort to speed up travel times. The closures took effect on March 1, 2020.[3]- I think this can be condensed. The announcement dates are not likely to be relevant at this point, since the stations are already closed.
Its trains operate for approximately 22 hours per day from a headway of 30 minutes during the early mornings and late evenings to as frequently as 15 minutes for most of the day- I think "from a headway of..." is weird in this context. I suggest "with headways ranging from..."
From Monday to Sunday,- "seven days a week" perhaps
last three trains turn into eastbound Blue Line trains- should "trains" be "trips" in this context? It would be difficult to be imagine physical trains "turning into" something.
Cascade Station- is this the same as Cascades station? If so, capitalization has to be consistent.
In 2008, Cascades station recorded an eight-fold increase in traffic, from 250 passengers per week to 2,000.[81] By 2010, this number had increased to 6,000.[82]- is there a way to combine these sentences?
These are all the comments I have for now. epicgenius ( talk) 19:45, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
I have made some minor copy edits which I believe leaves the article meeting FA criteria. The content looks good. Twofingered Typist ( talk) 20:18, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
Like Epicgenius, I will look at this more in-depth later. Here are a few comments
Lead:
The extension began construction in 1999 and was completed in just under two years due to the exclusion of federal funding and the utilization of existing public right-of-way.Maybe it is just me, but it seems to me that to a typical reader, that the fact that project was sped up by excluding federal funding might be counterintuitive. I understand the reasoning, and know that the lead is supposed to be a summary of the article, but it seems a bit off left unexplained here.
Amid strong westside ridership on the Blue Line, Red Line service was extended west to Beaverton Transit Center in 2003.You should establish that the Red Line was being extended along an already existing line.
Background and partnership agreement:
In 1975, during the preliminary design phase of Interstate 205 (I-205), Portland city planners recommended...Do you know the agency or agencies the city planners were working for? If you could find that information, it would be useful to include in the article.
In 1986, regional transit plansThe citation indicates that Metro was behind the plans. I would mention that to make clear to the reader that these were official plans done by a government agency.
with construction projected to begin around 2010.I just want to make sure this is right. In 1986, the plan projected the line to be completed in 2010, and later it was accelerated to open in 2001?
was defeated by Clark County voters in 1995.It would be helpful to mention the margin of the defeat.
In late 1996, Bechtel initiated discussionsThis is abrupt, and I think it would be useful to explain what Bechtel is and why they solicited the proposal.
The project was accelerated with the establishment of a public–private partnership, which eliminated the need for Federal Transit Administration (FTA) fundingI think it would be useful to note that the timeline was also sped up as an Environmental Impact Statement would not have to be completed, as the project was not using federal funds.
Funding and construction:
Additional costs raised this total to $182.7 million.What are these additional costs?
Under U.S. federal regulations, the Port of Portland was able to fund only the portion of rail located within its property, with approval from the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).Was this a Passenger Facility Charge? If so, I would mention that and link to Airport improvement fee.
funded by $30 million in bondsI am just being curious here, but were these bonds from a voter iniative, a local government, or somewhere else? Thanks.
over the freewaysIs this referring to multiple highways? If so, what highway in addition to I-205? You should mention them instead of just saying freeways.
owing to the I-205 TransitwayI would change this to "owing to the already constructed I-205 Transitway" or something like that.
Much of the extension was built over public right-of-way.Besides the highway right-of-way, were any other rights-of-way used for the project? If so, they should be mentioned.
Opening and later extension:
Upon opening, the Red Line terminated at the Library and Galleria stations in downtown Portland, where its trains turned around at the 11th Avenue loop tracks.Had these loop tracks already been in place? Were any modifications made so this station could be a terminal for Red Line service?
C-Tran moved its serviceMake clear that C-Train is a bus operator
On September 1, 2003, Red Line service was extended farther west using the existing Westside MAX tracksUpgrades are being made to extend Red Line service to Hillsboro. Was any infrastructure constructed to enable this extension of Red Line service in 2003?
Future plans
Stations
The closures took effect on March 1, 2020.You have a source from when the changes were announced, but you also need a source to indicate that they actually took place on March 1st.
@ Truflip99: This article is exceptional, and I look forward to hearing your responses. I will look at references and images later.-- Kew Gardens 613 ( talk) 18:30, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Leaving this here while I review it. If sources haven't been particularly examined, I'll do that. First note that, though the many Oregonian sources are generally inaccessible, I have had to look over some from here for a GA source review, and they turned up fine (no OR, no copyvio, it is RS) - so I won't look over these on assumption that the same standards have been met. Kingsif ( talk) 17:38, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
Images are appropriately licensed. Nikkimaria ( talk) 14:06, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
Prose comments forthcoming.
I came here from my FAC Cyclone Chapala, hoping you might do a review in return for not my article, but one of the four other tropical cyclone related articles.
The article is rather good. My issues shouldn't be too difficult to address. ♫ Hurricanehink ( talk) 18:48, 8 April 2020 (UTC)