The article was archived by Gog the Mild via FACBot ( talk) 14 March 2023 [1].
This article is about the self-produced ice shows of Japanese figure skater and two-time Olympic champion Yuzuru Hanyu. With Prologue (2022) and Gift (2023), he challenged the concept of a solo ice show and became the first skater to perform at the Tokyo Dome, one of Japan's largest and most prestigious entertainment venues, in front of a record ice show audience of 35,000 spectators.
Henni147 ( talk) 13:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Oppose Sorry. I am not satisfied the prose is at FA level. I made an edit to remove some redundancies [2], but there are other parts that are hard to understand ("challenged the concept of a solo ice show for the first time" and "with a duration of 90 minutes per day" - why per day?). I suggest and a fresh copy-edit focusing on redundancies and non-idiomatic expressions. Graham Beards ( talk) 14:40, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Comments I tend to agree that this article could benefit from a copyedit, preferably by someone who's not so close to the subject, and that it's not yet ready for FA promition, but I'd like to go on the record that this is yet another example of the higher scrutiny that figure skating articles and bios tend to go through. For example, the above request that Hanyu's importance and notability is explained isn't something that was expected of the ancillary articles about Michael Jordon. I suggest that when this article returns to FAC, that the nominators bring this up as an argument against the objection. Christine (Figureskatingfan) ( talk) 17:46, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
I'll have to agree with Graham here and also oppose.
Your changes were largely unnecessary and besides Graham's points. More importantly, I don't know who Yuzuru Hanyu is, and besides two-time Olympic champion
the article fails to explain his background appropriately. I know there is already an article on him, but I need to know who he is and what he's done in order to fully appreciate the significance of these works. I also don't see much in the way of how ice skating, Olympic or professional, works. Also, while the article mentions audience records, there's nothing on how the critics (if there even is such a thing in non-Olympic ice skating) received this foray. To be quite honest, I wouldn't even approve this for
GA at this time. Best of luck in your future work with this! –
John M Wolfson (
talk •
contribs) 00:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
The article was archived by Gog the Mild via FACBot ( talk) 14 March 2023 [1].
This article is about the self-produced ice shows of Japanese figure skater and two-time Olympic champion Yuzuru Hanyu. With Prologue (2022) and Gift (2023), he challenged the concept of a solo ice show and became the first skater to perform at the Tokyo Dome, one of Japan's largest and most prestigious entertainment venues, in front of a record ice show audience of 35,000 spectators.
Henni147 ( talk) 13:33, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Oppose Sorry. I am not satisfied the prose is at FA level. I made an edit to remove some redundancies [2], but there are other parts that are hard to understand ("challenged the concept of a solo ice show for the first time" and "with a duration of 90 minutes per day" - why per day?). I suggest and a fresh copy-edit focusing on redundancies and non-idiomatic expressions. Graham Beards ( talk) 14:40, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
Comments I tend to agree that this article could benefit from a copyedit, preferably by someone who's not so close to the subject, and that it's not yet ready for FA promition, but I'd like to go on the record that this is yet another example of the higher scrutiny that figure skating articles and bios tend to go through. For example, the above request that Hanyu's importance and notability is explained isn't something that was expected of the ancillary articles about Michael Jordon. I suggest that when this article returns to FAC, that the nominators bring this up as an argument against the objection. Christine (Figureskatingfan) ( talk) 17:46, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
I'll have to agree with Graham here and also oppose.
Your changes were largely unnecessary and besides Graham's points. More importantly, I don't know who Yuzuru Hanyu is, and besides two-time Olympic champion
the article fails to explain his background appropriately. I know there is already an article on him, but I need to know who he is and what he's done in order to fully appreciate the significance of these works. I also don't see much in the way of how ice skating, Olympic or professional, works. Also, while the article mentions audience records, there's nothing on how the critics (if there even is such a thing in non-Olympic ice skating) received this foray. To be quite honest, I wouldn't even approve this for
GA at this time. Best of luck in your future work with this! –
John M Wolfson (
talk •
contribs) 00:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)